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re: Questions for Ole Miss fans about NCAA
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:39 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:39 pm to lsufball19
The things you are charged with will bring a 2 year bowl ban on top of your self imposed 1 year bowl band.
The number between 30 and 40 will be number players lost over 4 years. that means in year 4 you will have between 55 to 45 players on scholarship. You can only sign 25 per year. You will be short a full 85 for years.
I'm sure you will po po my post. But I think your football program is the one that is standing in po po.
The number between 30 and 40 will be number players lost over 4 years. that means in year 4 you will have between 55 to 45 players on scholarship. You can only sign 25 per year. You will be short a full 85 for years.
I'm sure you will po po my post. But I think your football program is the one that is standing in po po.
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:43 pm to MullenBoys
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You guys lied your asses off and continued to cheat even while being investigated.
If OM had stopped cheating when the investigation started, they'd already be off probation and back to a full roster.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:45 pm to Whereisomaha
Hey man, the only thing I know is what I personally experienced.
Things I know for a fact happened:
Ole Miss delivers in excess of $5K to a top recruit in the state of Mississippi for canceling a visit to another SEC school, another $3K paid for officially visiting Ole Miss 2 weeks later.
Kirby Smart paid for a rental car for a recruit's family while he was on a visit.
An MSU booster dropped off three pairs of shoes at said recruit's house.
LSU assistant loaned a car to a recruit's family for about 4 days.
I had never seen anything (and haven't ever seen anything since) as brazen as what Ole Miss was doing. In your face, I dare you to catch us type stuff.
Things I know for a fact happened:
Ole Miss delivers in excess of $5K to a top recruit in the state of Mississippi for canceling a visit to another SEC school, another $3K paid for officially visiting Ole Miss 2 weeks later.
Kirby Smart paid for a rental car for a recruit's family while he was on a visit.
An MSU booster dropped off three pairs of shoes at said recruit's house.
LSU assistant loaned a car to a recruit's family for about 4 days.
I had never seen anything (and haven't ever seen anything since) as brazen as what Ole Miss was doing. In your face, I dare you to catch us type stuff.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:49 pm to Billy Mays
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You are a good source for unbiased information on the subject. I should listen to you (MS fan), Steve Robertson (MS fan), Dan Wolken (cuck for the NCAA), and Leo Lewis (current MS player and former recruit everyone knew had hands out) for factual updates only.
How ironic. Everyone you mentioned was spot on and told the truth. Yet you still choose to believe the same people who have been lying to you and have been wrong every time
I swear, you could have played a patient in that mental hospital in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and won an Accademy Award. You would have been so convincing as a mental job without trying.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:49 pm to Tuscaloosa
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An MSU booster dropped off three pairs of shoes at said recruit's house.
someone got them new yeezy's 
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:53 pm to Whereisomaha
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What did OM do that is at a different level than others?
Commit level 1 violations. Also, you had 60+ secondary violations but only self reported 22 of them. Doesn't seem like institutional control or atmosphere of compliance. That's what you did at a different level than others. Just off top of my head
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:02 pm to Whereisomaha
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What did OM do that is at a different level than others?
Paying players
Fixing grades
Hiring escorts
Tunsil draft night
Freeze doing all this shite while feigning holiness
Freeze literally daring people to turn him in
When they got caught they didn't quit cheating
They "self-reported" but left out all the worst things
Tried to blame everything on Farrar
When that didn't work, tried to blame it on Nutt
Tried to blame it on Leo
Ole Miss is like the kid with chocolate all over his face swearing up and down that they didn't eat the chocolate cake. Don't be surprised when the NCAA takes them to the woodshed.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:04 pm to Mstate
Simply owning those shoes should be a Level I violation. 
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:04 pm to JustGetItRight
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The simple fact is that historically, at OM
A bad coach wins 3-4 games a year.
A mediocre coach wins 5-6.
A really good coach wins 6-7.
A really good coach that cheats his arse off will get close to 8.
OM won more top 25 games than anyone not names Alabama and ohio state during 2014 & 2015. A rebuild from the worst season in OM history takes time but by year 3 and 4 OM was averaging 9.5 wins and recruiting in the top 10. That was done with less talent than half the programs in the league.
But whatever. Some people believe that the name on your jersey or your history wins games and not the players and coaches. OM has a top 10 salary and a top 20 recruiting job. With the right coach that means its a top 20 job.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:07 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM has top 20 recruiting job
Sans cheating? No
Unless you're Houston Nutt and you sign 17 4* running backs and a class of 40. Then they make rules about you
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:08 pm to Billy Mays
Considering my side has been right the entire step of the way throughout this investigation, perhaps you should start listening. Am I unbiased? Absolutely not. Being biased doesn't mean one can't read. Perhaps you should try it. Your school is absolutely screwed and they are screwed because the evidence is in total favor of the NCAA. Your school has no case, and anyone who read the NCAA's response and the proof to go with it can see that. Now go along and tell everyone how stupid the people are that have been calling their shots throughout this investigation. Perhaps you should order that book as well so you will finally get a glimpse of what actually happened instead of what your idiot beat writers/fan site writers have been telling you that made you look like an idiot for 5 years.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:10 pm to Whereisomaha
We are talking about historical mean, not apex performances. You're doing the OM version of Alabama fans expecting a national championship every single season.
The odds of the next Alabama coach repeating what Saban's done are incredibly low, but historically Alabama fans can expect to regularly contend for the SEC West and a couple of times a decade make a run at (but not necessarily win) a natty.
Maybe you can elevate the program beyond its historic level of performance. It happens (see FSU), but to expect to match the best two years in the last 35 is setting yourself up for disappointment.
The odds of the next Alabama coach repeating what Saban's done are incredibly low, but historically Alabama fans can expect to regularly contend for the SEC West and a couple of times a decade make a run at (but not necessarily win) a natty.
Maybe you can elevate the program beyond its historic level of performance. It happens (see FSU), but to expect to match the best two years in the last 35 is setting yourself up for disappointment.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:10 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM won more top 25 games than anyone not names Alabama and ohio state during 2014 & 2015. A rebuild from the worst season in OM history takes time but by year 3 and 4 OM was averaging 9.5 wins and recruiting in the top 10. That was done with less talent than half the programs in the league.
Because you were cheating.
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But whatever. Some people believe that the name on your jersey or your history wins games and not the players and coaches.
You're running out of both of these.
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OM has a top 10 salary and a top 20 recruiting job. With the right coach that means its a top 20 job.
You are currently projected dead last in the SEC for this recruiting cycle due to decommits.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:12 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM won more top 25 games than anyone not names Alabama and ohio state during 2014 & 2015. A rebuild from the worst season in OM history takes time but by year 3 and 4 OM was averaging 9.5 wins and recruiting in the top 10. That was done with less talent than half the programs in the league.
This was done by blatantly paying players. What about that are you failing to comprehend?
A clean Ole Miss Program is a 6 to 7 win program at best.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:13 pm to dbeck
He keeps fighting the good fight
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:13 pm to Whereisomaha
You do realize that the NCAA doesn't have subpoena power, right? Every time some idiot screams about the NCAA not finding anything until a disgruntled parent and a rival player, I want to punch them in the mouth. The NCAA's hands are tied. Those are the only type of things they will ever find unless a person is extremely idiotic (and according to the # of level one violations that the NCAA found at your school, your people were very idiotic). Do you have any idea how easy it is to cover your tracks when someone has no real power to make you show them things? Your school still managed to come away with the most level 1 violations in the history of NCAA investigations and you are on here bitching about a stepdad and a rival player. Look around sweetheart.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:14 pm to dbeck
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Paying players
Once again, the only thing they have as regards to paying a player is a kid who didn't even go to OM. A kid who committed to three different programs and admitted he took money from three different schools. The school he ended up at is the school who was last in trouble with the ncaa, which was paying him 3K to not visit another school. So no, paying players isn't something different.
quote:Im surprised you even know about this. This is the worst thing in the noa and no one talks about it because its not pay for play and has nothing to do with Freeze or anyone at OM for the past 6 years.
Fixing grades
quote:If Freeze did this for players he would have done it for the defensive player he needed most in his entire tenure. The defensive player who has snitched on OM and the defensive player who is at the rival school. If we didn't pay for him to get laid, we didn't do it for anyone. There is no allegations of this. Try again
Hiring escorts
quote:nothing came of this. The most talented player since Patrick willis drove a 4K car and yall think he got something other programs weren't shelling out when every player at bama drives a new Camaro or charger
Tunsil draft night
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Freeze doing all this shite while feigning holiness
Freeze literally daring people to turn him in
What does this have to do with us winning games? We won a lot of games with on average 8th best roster in the league. How is Freeze being a hypocrite win games OM wouldn't have won if he wasn't a hypocrite?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:18 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM won more top 25 games than anyone not names Alabama and ohio state during 2014 & 2015
okay, what about the other years.... you are showing a two year anomaly that included cheating.
Also, just to check your stat, are you saying no other team beat more than 4 top 25 teams in that 2 year period?
I checked one team and they had that in one year
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OM has a top 10 salary
for a tenured coach, your new coach wont be in that realm
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a top 20 recruiting job
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:19 pm to Whereisomaha
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If Freeze did this for players he would have done it for the defensive player he needed most in his entire tenure.
This is the line of logic that always pops up with Ole Miss posters and it is great every time. Well, it didn't happen with this player so it couldn't happen with others.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:21 pm to NYCAuburn
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no other team beat more than 4 top 25 teams in that 2 year period?
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