re: Questions for Ole Miss fans about NCAA

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You aren't being treated unfairly. Your school violated rules like most do, but the difference is you did it at a different level and did it WHILE under investigation.

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At what different level? What did OM do that is at a different level than others?

The 5 figure cash payments, for one. I don't believe many programs are doing that.

Paying players to take visits and cancel official visits to other schools is another habit other schools don't mess with - and most of that wasn't even listed in the NOA.

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Since Billy Brewer left, the median number of wins for an OM season is 7. The mean average is 6.3. Go back to the end of the Vaught era and those numbers drop to a flat 6 for both mean and median.

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Yes, if you assume OM goes to the mean and hires bad coaches, which is possible. I am assuming they don't if they get just a 1 year ban. OM recruits in the top 20 with Tubby, O, Nutt and Freeze. If they are decent coaches like Freeze and Tubby they will win (Tubby was under harsh sanctions). But yes, if its a Matt Luke or a mediocre to bad coach then OM will win 6-7 games.

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DuBose's sex scandal occurred prior to the 1999 season. He was fired for getting shut out by Southern Miss at home a couple weeks after dropping the season opener to UCLA in 2000 - a year that we were expected to compete for a national championship.

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I guess my memory is fading. I thought they settled between the 1999 & 2000 seasons.

Still, I think the parallels between our 99/2000 situation and where OM is right now are uncanny.

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If you think Ole Miss presented enough holes in Leo's testimony to make him unreliable you should read (for the first time because I'm quite sure you haven't already or you wouldn't have this ignorant opinion) the facts that the NCAA released on that testimony yesterday. It's very obvious who is lying and it isn't Leo Lewis.

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Help us out with that. OM fans say LL lied about Rebel Rags and mentioned having bags of cash from the attorney given 10K can fit in one hand. What was in the response, to a bias simpleton like myself what was in the response that proves we lied and he is telling the truth.

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Correct.

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So this kid committed to Bama, OM and State, admits he took money from other programs, another being LSU and you are still going to sit there and say that OM does something most others don't do. We are talking about the SEC and not all fbs programs right?

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But punishing kids who had nothing to do with this is why the ncaa is viewed so negatively.

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If they add another year to the bowl ban, underclassmen are allowed to transfer without penalty. The NCAA is punishing the program. The kids, unfortunately are collateral damage, but the NCAA gives them that loophole to try to mitigate the damages to the kids.

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If OM gets a 1 year bowl ban then it wont take anytime to recover.

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Not if you have severe scholarship reductions. Hard to field a competitive football team with 50 scholarship players

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If its a 2 year bowl ban then it will take a minimum of 3 years before we can field a legit 8-9 win team

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again, you're totally discounting the scholarship reductions that will happen. That hurts a program more than any other penalty the NCAA assesses

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again, you're totally discounting the scholarship reductions that will happen. That hurts a program more than any other penalty the NCAA assesses

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I said minimum of 3 years. And we have already taken 8 scholarships the past two years. So lets say they hit us with 20, which is a ton, we would only need to take 12 more out, which is having a roster of 81 instead of 85. It hurts yes, but its not as crippling as another bowl ban. But once again, I said minimum of 3 years.

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I agree, especially the way the fans and even beat writers have handled it.

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matthew25 would have been embarrassed at the amount of sunshine I was pumping.

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. Ole Miss giving out thousands of dollars for a recruit to cancel a visit to another school.

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Yet we loose top targets to Starkville and others every single year. You would rather believe that kids turn down money to live in Starkville. Blind

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Every single program in the SEC is dirty to some extent - including Bama, LSU, etc... but I've never seen anything like what I saw going on with Ole Miss. Just blatant, in your face cheating, with no real attempt to cover it up or keep it quiet. Wild.

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The ncaa was at OM doorstep for 5 years. They didn't come up with a single pay for play allegation until Laremy's step fathers snitched on him and got him for $800. The investigation is over by proof of the first noa and then draft night happens which forces the ncaa to take a players word who went to a rival school. OM is so wild and crazy that it took 5 years two snitches to allege 16K in pay for play.

Once again you would rather believe OM cheats like wild yet loose kids to places like MSU, you know the last school who got busted for cheating and actual cheating like pay for play and not rides and hotel rooms, you'd rather believe they turn down money then realize when every single kid at bama flashes wads of cash and all have the exact same new camera or charger that OM is the only one doing this. And OM is so wild and crazy, but it took them 5 years and rival schools snitching to find any pay for play. I know you don't believe this.