re: Question for LSU Fans - RE: Chavis's Defense

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ETA: looks like I just elaborated on what GetMoreWithLes said. sorry.

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No need to be sorry, I was just saying what I see in the Mustang. You don't see much discussion about it. I am not sure the avg LSU fan comprehends the success Chavis has against the HUNH. This is why I got into a sparring match a month or so ago with some Barners who think Nick Marshall is the second coming.

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We got smoked pretty good by Auburn/Cam in '10

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I would not say smoked in a total game sense. 448 yds rushing was a smoke but only 86 yds passing against the great Cam in a 24 - 17 loss at Jordan-Hare...

Team Totals LS AU
FIRST DOWNS 18 25
Rushing 13 18
Passing 3 6
Penalty 2 1
NET YARDS RUSHING 115 440
Rushing Attempts 37 52
Average Per Rush 3.1 8.5
Rushing Touchdowns 1 3
Yards Gained Rushing 155 448
Yards Lost Rushing 40 8
NET YARDS PASSING 128 86
Completions-Attempts-Int 16-30-1 10-16-0
Average Per Attempt 4.3 5.4
Average Per Completion 8.0 8.6
Passing Touchdowns 1 0
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS 243 526
Total offense plays 67 68
Average Gain Per Play 3.6 7.7
Fumbles: Number-Lost 2-0 1-1
Penalties: Number-Yards 4-24 7-45

Why do they count? They won the B1G, which is the current home of old boring offensive football. The only top offensive team they beat is a tOSU team that runs a less modern offense than Meyer did at UF (and mostly beat themselves IMHO).

Compare that to Stanford beating Oregon a few times in the last few years, or LSU beating Oregon, West Virginia, 2013 Auburn, 2012 and 2013 A&M.

I think Michigan St. has one of the best defensive coordinators in the game, but an Oregon or Auburn would blow their top 30 talent off the field.

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Why do they count?

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Because they have one of the best defenses in the country and they beat Ohio State.

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I think Michigan St. has one of the best defensive coordinators in the game, but an Oregon or Auburn would blow their top 30 talent off the field.

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Nah.

Sumlin and the HUNH/Tempo offenses as a rule take away Saban's biggest two pieces on the chessboard when it comes to dictating predictable down and distances: Substitution and pre-snap disguising of defensive tendencies.

LSU as a rule has recruited Tweeners at the Linebacker position. They have also recruited and developed high-level talent at the CB and DB positions in general. We look for kids who can cover but also we put heavy emphasis on run support types.

This lets LSU run 42 personnel with 43 calls. With kids who can run like Mingo and Hunter, we can run 34 looks and even some 32's against the HUNH types.

But the key is to have your ends hang back. Rush but don't push up the field against a Manziel anyway. You take away the run lanes and the tackles are there to clean up bolts out of the pocket. Johnny Football wanted to run after one, two reads at best. Leaving your ends to hang back, having the tackle play discipline, it takes those looks away.

But Saban can't run those in between calls with in between players because he recruits specific players to his system and subs the hell out of kids based on down and distance. Rattlesnake's system forces his sub packages to declare pre snap intentions with splits and motion. Afterwards, the mismatches based on call forces the ball to their weak areas-typically a Sunseri on intermediate routes the past few seasons-or their run lanes when they run more than 3 receivers on vertical releases off the line.

This makes him throw system out the window and call the dog trying to heat the QB. But this opens up more running lanes for a mobile QB.

Essentially, the Manziel/Kingsbury/Sumlin Air Raid variant turns Saban against himself. It forces him out of sub packages and makes him tell you what he's running pre snap.

It's his Kryptonite. Meanwhile, Chavis has kids who can play multiple roles in multiple sub/personnel groupings. Saban recruits athletes to play specific roles. LSU recruits athletes and teaches them multiple positions.

Thank you that is an interesting explanation.

I will never forget all those huge Bama dlinemen out of place and out of breath in 2012 the second time Johnny came marching down the field.

It felt like when in Mega Man you go against the right boss with the power he is weak against and you kick his arse.

I feel like Saban lost control of the sport that day.

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Michigan State?

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When has MSU played a HUNH offense like Oregon or Auburn?

Oregon plays MSU this year, so we get to find out. Furthermore, Oregon has a third year signal caller, 5 OL that started the 2nd half of the season, 3 productive TE, and 2 productive running backs. MSU has to replace 6 starters on defense. Narduzzi will have to have a
helluva game plan.

MSU's game plan typically requires disguising pre snap look. That will be mitigated.

I think Dak Prescott and that slot receiver Jameon Lewis is gonna absolutely shred your defense.

Grindmullins is pretty good as an OC/Playcaller when he gets a QB for his system. He's got a badass one in Prescott IMO.

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Oregon plays MSU this year, so we get to find out.

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:can'twait: