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re: Power Five Conferences approved by NCAA
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:15 pm to wareagle2007
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:15 pm to wareagle2007
So that sounds like it is paving the way to have the upper echelon conferences give a larger stipend to the student athletes.
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:15 pm to Cumulonimbus
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I don't see the benefits of a relatively small conference having a championship game
$$$$$$
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:16 pm to YouDontKnowBro
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Good luck recruiting the state of Texas with that system in place. "Hey JM come sign my football for oil well royalties."
Please explain to me why that's a bad thing.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:18 pm to HinesvilleThrill
George O'Leary mad
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:21 pm to goldennugget
This is stoping players getting paid in college
"That profit motive, however, does not compel payment of student-athletes. The reverse is true, because paying student-athletes would eliminate the academic tradition that, according to the 1984 Supreme Court, “differentiates college football from and makes it more popular than professional sports to which it might otherwise be comparable, such as, for example, minor league baseball.”"
"That profit motive, however, does not compel payment of student-athletes. The reverse is true, because paying student-athletes would eliminate the academic tradition that, according to the 1984 Supreme Court, “differentiates college football from and makes it more popular than professional sports to which it might otherwise be comparable, such as, for example, minor league baseball.”"
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:22 pm to HinesvilleThrill
The war of atrocity for recruiting is about to enter the nuclear age... Its gonna get even more sleazy and and the carnage will be at an unimaginable level... Stuffs about to get real, y'all, and the gloves are gonna come completely off....
Should b fun to watch!!!!
Should b fun to watch!!!!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:28 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Please explain to me why that's a bad thing.
What would you have thought if Texas had paid guys like Peyton Manning and Eric Berry $500,000 to transfer there? That would dilute college football.
I don't have a problem with giving them small stipends for media appearances and other stuff but I just hope it doesn't go farther than that
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:29 pm to gohogs141
It will... Waaaaay farther.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:33 pm to ejohns74
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"That profit motive, however, does not compel payment of student-athletes. The reverse is true, because paying student-athletes would eliminate the academic tradition that, according to the 1984 Supreme Court, “differentiates college football from and makes it more popular than professional sports to which it might otherwise be comparable, such as, for example, minor league baseball.”"
Take away the amateur status and it's just NFL instructional league, with more government involved, and no tax benefit for the educational institutions, everybody loses.
That's the day I stop being a college football fan.
These kids are getting not just $100,000 educations, but the best professional coaching and training available and the best medical care if they need it all which is worth untold 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars on top of all the tuition and other benefits. They get personalize training schedules customized for them by a professional staff and overseen by some of the best trainers in sports. Instruction on how to become better at their positions by the best coaches in football. How much do you think an hour of Nick Sabans time is worth? They get to work out in the best facilities that are as good or better than what the pro's have and play in billion dollar stadiums. All while being given the chance to prove they might actually be good enough to play at the next level, which most aren't and will never get to be pro's. For four+ years they get to live the dream of being "like the pros" only as kids are still being given the oppurtunity to learn much about life, a goal which many clearly are struggling with.
People claiming they are somehow being "ripped off" are among the dimmest bulbs on the planet.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:36 pm to Jagd Tiger
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That's the day I stop being a college football fan.
Exactly. If one wants to watch paid athletes, watch the NFL. That'd be a better show.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:40 pm to HinesvilleThrill
I'm not so sure about the whole "giving a vote to the student-athletes" thing. Granted, it's mostly token, given the distribution of weight assigned to the various factions, but I don't trust them to vote for our president and the future of the country, let alone something actually important like college football.
More to the point, we're going to be reading the latest about whatever UGA player got kicked off the team and realize that these people are allowed to have a say in the process again once Auburn picks them up. Maybe a whole "you got kicked off a team, you lose your vote forever" deal needs to be implemented.
More to the point, we're going to be reading the latest about whatever UGA player got kicked off the team and realize that these people are allowed to have a say in the process again once Auburn picks them up. Maybe a whole "you got kicked off a team, you lose your vote forever" deal needs to be implemented.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:46 pm to Cumulonimbus
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If one wants to watch paid athletes, watch the NFL. That'd be a better show.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:49 pm to Cumulonimbus
The paying the players thing isn't a problem with the entertainment format. It is a legal problem, so ignoring it doesn't help you.
Old college football already died yall. It died the day Judge Claudia Wilken got involved. This is all just fallout.
Old college football already died yall. It died the day Judge Claudia Wilken got involved. This is all just fallout.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:51 pm to cardboardboxer
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Old college football already died yall. It died the day Judge Claudia Wilken got involved. This is all just fallout.
If that were true then the blatant cheating that we saw in our last conference wouldn't be an issue, but the oki's handing out new cars and the beakers stuffing envelopes with tickets are still against the rules.
Maybe it's on the ropes but it ain't dead yet.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:57 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Jagd Tiger
I agree with all that. They should give out a full allotment of scholarships to baseball first. To allow more kids the opportunity of an education(paid for), while getting the opportunity to showcase his talents to 30 MLB clubs.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:58 pm to Jagd Tiger
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If that were true then the blatant cheating that we saw in our last conference wouldn't be an issue, but the oki's handing out new cars and the beakers stuffing envelopes with tickets are still against the rules.
Well yeah, the judge hasn't ruled yet. But make no mistake, the NCAA did a shite job of making its case and Wilken is ready to blow the whole thing up.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:12 pm to Tennessee Jed
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They should offer stipends, and impose the Olympic model. Players should be allowed to make what they're worth on the open market
I'm sure Oregon loves this idea.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I'm wondering how this will bite us (the SEC) in the arse. Amongst the teams in the Power 5 conferences, there are still the haves and the have nots.
The have nots if they possess some degree of solidarity could impose an agenda that we don't like.
Then I suppose another round of restructuring and secession.
The have nots if they possess some degree of solidarity could impose an agenda that we don't like.
Then I suppose another round of restructuring and secession.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:34 pm to ejohns74
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That profit motive, however, does not compel payment of student-athletes. The reverse is true, because paying student-athletes would eliminate the academic tradition that, according to the 1984 Supreme Court, “differentiates college football from and makes it more popular than professional sports to which it might otherwise be comparable, such as, for example, minor league baseball.”"
This probably no longer has any bearing. When Northwestern players got the right to be a union they became recognized as employees under federal law.
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In March, the regional director of the NLRB in Chicago ruled that players could be considered employees and are eligible to form a union.
This is no longer about academics if the appeals fail to stop them.
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Now on the flip side the IRS is drooling over this. If the union is allowed to stand you will see a push that all money or benefits, including athletic scholarships, travel provided with lodging, and other expenses covered normally by the school as income and taxable.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:38 pm to TideWarrior
The power 5 should agree to bring relegation into cfb. we can cull the heard and take out the non money makers. kansas would be relegated to third tier football 
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