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re: Power Five Conferences approved by NCAA

Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:41 pm to
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The ACC and SEC would be well served to have the freedom to eliminate divisional play (if they choose) and pick the top 2 teams for their conference championship game.


They have that now. The conference created the divisions.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
I'm sure the $2,000 - $5,000 is just a jumping off point. Some of the better players will get a few hundred bucks for little things.

Having a cookout? Here's a thousand dollars for some hot dog buns.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:43 pm to
As I understand the rule, to have a conference title game, the NCAA requires divisions. The Big 12 wants to have a title game, but cannot because they have one 9 game schedule.

Some years a conference may have the best 2 teams in one division and should play again in the title game.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:44 pm to
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The ACC and SEC would be well served to have the freedom to eliminate divisional play
if you mean something like switch from a 2 team CC game to a 4 team playoff format, pretty sure that would be rather simple to enact at this point.

It might be a good idea, but would eliminate an "off" week at the very least, which is an issue from the academics standpoint.

Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:45 pm to
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So basically $150-$450 a month

They already get that much more than that in off campus allowance


yea, it's really just a "raise" to what they are already being "paid".
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:48 pm to
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I wonder if this rule allows each league autonomy to determine their league champion...The ACC and SEC would be well served to have the freedom to eliminate divisional play (if they choose) and pick the top 2 teams for their conference championship game. 



I've also heard the Big 12 is interested in having championship game with only 10 members.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:49 pm to
Well, most schools need 7 home games for the money. That is in part why the SEC and ACC are staying at 8 games. If both 14 team leagues did not have to comitt to the same divisional foes every year, a 9 game schedule would probably work because you will have the chance to play against more schools that you would not normally see...For example, Clemson hardly ever gets to play Miami and I am sure there are SEC examples.

Being able to select to the to 2 ranked teams as opposed to the 2 divisional winner would make a better conference championship game and a better chance of 1-2 teams making the playoff
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:51 pm to
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I've also heard the Big 12 is interested in having championship game with only 10 members.


lol,, request "DENIED" make them add Rice, Memphis or South Dakota to their ftard conference..





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I'm sure the $2,000 - $5,000 is just a jumping off point. Some of the better players will get a few hundred bucks for little things.


Yea the problems are the avenues for cheating are already there, this only simplifies that pathway even more.

People who think that somehow the NCAA "is the problem" are simply naive fools, the NCAA is just the representative body of all schools, it's an entirely necessary and vital function.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:53 pm to
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I am opposed


Why?

Why does it bother people if student athletes are actually compensated for their hard work. I genuinely do not understand.

These SEC schools are making upwards of $100,000,000 per year in revenue on football alone, and the thought of paying the kids who are actually responsible for that revenue is taboo. It's absurd, and there's literally no good argument against it.

The Olympic model is the obvious answer. If JM wants to sell a couple hundred autographs for 10K, let him do it. If Jim Bob Chevy in Tuscaloosa wants to pay Yeldon for doing a commercial, go for it. If Pilot Oil wants to sponsor Dillon Bates, that's their prerogative.

It doesn't change one thing. The games will still be played. The same teams will have the same built in recruiting advantages. It changes nothing, except for a few student athletes quality of life.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:53 pm to
Well, that didn't take long for LSU fans to start
whining about
A. Schedules
B. Alabama

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:55 pm to
Some rule changes could come pretty fast ... here's the projected timeline.

Posted by Pelican fan99
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:01 pm to
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I've also heard the Big 12 is interested in having championship game with only 10 members.
i don't see why they shouldn't be able to. Just split them into two divisions of five.
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Hopefully, this brings us one step closer to paying players. It's time for these Universities to stop stealing from their athletes.
Ya man frick these universities that give kids an opportunity to attend college for free and show case their skills on a national level. The players that are good enough end up getting paid eventually. And before injuries are brought up. I can think of way more guys that got drafted with an injury than those that had a career ending injury.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:05 pm to
The NCAA is its members. If the Power 5 wanted to break off they could and the NCAA could do nothing about it. The only incentive to stay in the NCAA is that the structure is already there (and of course the REC runs it)
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:05 pm to
The problem is if the Power 5 doesn't move and start paying players through a compromise system then that federal judge will jump and an force an NFL system (down to the salary cap).

They have to do this.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:09 pm to
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i don't see why they shouldn't be able to. Just split them into two divisions of five.



I'm pretty sure they can't under the current rules.
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:10 pm to
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It doesn't change one thing. The games will still be played. The same teams will have the same built in recruiting advantages. It changes nothing, except for a few student athletes quality of life.


Good luck recruiting the state of Texas with that system in place. "Hey JM come sign my football for oil well royalties."
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17585 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Well, that didn't take long for LSU fans to start
whining about
A. Schedules
B. Alabama



Yea maybe we can schedule lsu for every game, SEC championship game every year.
Posted by Cumulonimbus
Alabama
Member since Jun 2014
623 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:12 pm to
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i don't see why they shouldn't be able to. Just split them into two divisions of five.

The Big 12's round-robin scheduling ensures that in-conference scheduling is even on a team-basis. Why would you need a championship game when the best teams have already played during the regularly scheduled games? I don't see the benefits of a relatively small conference having a championship game.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:13 pm to
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