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Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:30 pm to Patton
quote:Yeah. I missed it by a year. That 07 Bama team had so much less talent than ULM. It wasn't Saban's coaching.
I liked when you claimed that team had Ingram and Julio on it.
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:31 pm to Rabern57
quote:he's showing functioning brain cells.
Yeah. I missed it by a year. That 07 Bama team had less talent thanks ULM. It wasn't Saban's coaching.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:46 pm to Phat Phil
Please get aids
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:51 pm to im4LSU
Hahahahahahahahaha
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:55 pm to Rabern57
You definitely take the cake for most little brother poster on this board.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 11:59 pm to Rabern57
Has he done anything since?
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:00 am to Rabern57
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That 07 Bama team had so much less talent than ULM. It wasn't Saban's coaching.
How much longer are people going to continue to focus on that one game from nine years ago? Alabama has won almost 100 games since that cruel November afternoon 10 seasons back. 99 wins and 4 national championships later, you'd think people would have chalked that loss to ULM as nothing more than a fluke by now.
But I guess every fan base has their morons and trolls. Which one are you?
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:05 am to RollTide1987
Wonder how the Michigan fans feel about Appy State! Bama gets shite for that game and have won 4 titles since then!
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:17 am to Rabern57
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Rabern57
Facts are facts. Petrino took over an Arkansas team that was one season removed from winning the west one year after Saban took over an Alabama team that hadn't been to Atlanta in 8 years.
Saban won all four meetings by a combined score of 146-55.
So, starting from a point of more talent, building over a period of four years, Petrino was humiliated in both recruiting, program management, and head to head matchups.
Let that sink into your tiny brain for a bit.
This post was edited on 9/10/16 at 12:23 am
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:20 am to TT9
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he's showing functioning brain cells.
The koolaids wearing off, quick, get him some more!
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:36 am to Evolved Simian
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Facts are facts. Petrino took over an Arkansas team that was one season removed from winning the west. Saban took over an Alabama team that hadn't been to Atlanta in 8 years.
Didn't Petrino take over a team with very little returning players, absolute shite for recruits, and was stuck at Arkansas? I think you already knew that. Saban was one of, if not the first, posterchild of high school kids clamoring for instant success. Calipari. Saban. What was the difference (yeah, basketball is easier)? They didn't have to work as hard to build their programs, hire coaches, get top recruits, and develop talent. The dream continues.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:57 am to jsmoove
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They didn't have to work as hard to build their programs, hire coaches, get top recruits, and develop talent.
Yeah, this is 100% bullshite and you know it.
Alabama, as a program, hadn't been relevant since the mid-90s. All we had going for us when we fired Shula in 2006 was a name that was associated with past success. And that past success (the glory years of Bear Bryant) occurred before any of the players Saban recruited to Alabama in '07 or '08 were even born. Most of them were in pre-school when Alabama won its last national championship in 1992.
Do you know what Alabama's combined record was from 1997-2006? 67-55. To go from 67-55 through 10 seasons to 106-18 through the next 10 seasons isn't easy. It takes a lot of hard work, hiring the right coaches, developing talent, and keeping players motivated to continue to want to play at a high level week in and week out, year in and year out.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:59 am to MykTide
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Appy State destroys Tennessee if they have about equal talent.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:16 am to RollTide1987
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Yeah, this is 100% bullshite and you know it.
Alabama, as a program, hadn't been relevant since the mid-90s. All we had going for us when we fired Shula in 2006 was a name that was associated with past success.
There was recent past success, getting off probation, and other top programs were in turmoil. Saban just waltzed in and got a top recruiting class out of thin air? There was still (as always) excellent talent at Alabama then. Petrino didn't have shite at Arkansas. He built 3 star talent after an embarrassing first season into a top 10 program in three years. He scratched and clawed, like any coach at Arkansas is forced to do. Nobody is downplaying your god into poser status. This thread asked what the situation would be if both were on an equal playing field. Who knows, but Bear would go in dry.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:19 am to jsmoove
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Didn't Petrino take over a team with very little returning players, absolute shite for recruits,
You mean, just like Saban?
It's not even debatable. Saban owned him.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:25 am to jsmoove
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There was still (as always) excellent talent at Alabama then
Four NFL draft picks total after Saban's first two seasons. Petrino had three.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:28 am to Evolved Simian
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You mean, just like Saban?
It's not even debatable. Saban owned him.
Petrino didn't inherit JPW, Andre Smith, McClain, Arenas, Caldwell, etc. There was a ton of pro talent on your defense I can't remember besides McClain. Not saying they're equal, or one would be better, but don't compare an Arkansas coach with Alabama. Petrino was left with absolute jack shite his first two seasons.
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:39 am to jsmoove
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There was recent past success
What is your definition of recent? Alabama's last good run was from 1991-1994 where they went a combined 45-5-1. They rounded out the 1990s with a 39-21 (.650) record. From 2000-2006, Alabama went 46-40 (.535). I'm failing to see where there was "success" from 1995-2006 (the fluke SEC title in '99 excluded).
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Saban just waltzed in and got a top recruiting class out of thin air?
No, he didn't. It took a lot of hard work. Alabama hadn't signed a recruiting class that good and that celebrated since 1980.
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There was still (as always) excellent talent at Alabama then.
I guess that's why Saban reportedly walked off the practice field shaking his head in disgust after his first spring practice in 2007. Alabama had very little elite talent on its roster in 2007. The little talent that was there did not respond well to Saban's coaching methods (ex: DJ Hall, Keith Brown, and Simeon Castille) and thus did not play to the level they were capable of all season long.
There wasn't a single player drafted off of that '07 squad. You have to go all the way back to 1970 to find a year where Alabama didn't have a single player taken in the NFL Draft. So to claim that there was "excellent talent" on that squad is laughable to say the least.
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He built 3 star talent after an embarrassing first season into a top 10 program in three years.
I wouldn't call a 5-7 season "embarrassing," especially when it ends with a victory over your team's arch-rival (LSU). And Arkansas could have easily won 4 of the 7 it ended up losing. The only games they never had a chance in were against Alabama, Texas, and Florida (teams that finished #6, #4, and #1 in the AP Poll respectively).
Posted on 9/10/16 at 2:17 am to jsmoove
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JPW
And Saban signed McClain in his first class.
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Petrino was left with absolute jack shite his first two seasons.
Again, he had one less draft pick than Saban did during that time frame.
Saying that 2006 team was loaded with returning talent is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/10/16 at 2:20 am
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