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re: Pat Dye question : What led to the gradual decline of Auburn after 1989?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:12 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:12 pm to Irons Puppet
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You don't know shite, Hall was not part of the payment system. Let's just say that person was very young. hint, hint. PS I was close to the source, so keep trying.
I know the real truth...Hall was involved.....you ever thought that there may have been more than 1 tooth fairy, genius?
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:18 pm to coachcrisp
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Hall was involved
The entire staff was "involved" and still are.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:46 pm to beatbammer
I saw Coach Dye in January 1993 after he had resigned. He was a dark yellow color and looked like he could drop dead at any moment. I was surprised he made it through all that.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:46 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Not on-going. Cleared of all charges. 
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:49 pm to coachcrisp
Hall was the D.C, he didn't have time for players knocking on his door asking for money. Your postings keep reinforcing my statement that you are FOS. Those in the know at AU and UAt will agree with me.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:33 pm to beatbammer
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The only person who has come close in this whole thread is pete. After the 1990 season, Dye was diagnosed with chronic hemochromatosis. He underwent surgery for it in 1991. The condition causes an extremely high level of iron in the blood and that extra iron eventually gets stored in various body organs, especially the liver, heart, and the pancreas. Its a genetic condition that is hard to detect because the symptoms are varied and mock the symptoms of other conditions. That basically means that if you didn't know you had a chance to inherit it from your mom or dad, you go your whole life with your blood poisoning your organs with iron until they finally detect and diagnose it. As a matter of fact, Pat Dye's daughter has it too. If you compared a picture of Dye in 1989 to one only 4 years later in 1993, there's a significant difference in visible physical condition. Considering how sick he was, in retrospect I'm amazed we won 5 games in 1991 and 1992.
Geez.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:40 pm to beatbammer
quote:I personally knew medical professionals who had firsthand knowledge of Dye's health issues in '93. I was told he was a dead man walking.
If you compared a picture of Dye in 1989 to one only 4 years later in 1993, there's a significant difference in visible physical condition.
His recovery was nothing short of miraculous. Especially since it appears he never gave up his Jack Black.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:53 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Wayne was the defensive line coach, dumbass ....and he did personally deliver the cheese..I know it's a fact....believe what you want...who cares?
Hall was the D.C, he didn't have time for players knocking on his door asking for money. Your postings keep reinforcing my statement that you are FOS. Those in the know at AU and UAt will agree with me.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:09 pm to FearlessFreep
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I was told he was a dead man walking.
According to Irons Puppet, that didn't mean he couldn't coach!
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Well Tater-Tot Bowden (HC) and Jimbo Fisher (OC) took Auburn to an undefeated season while on probation.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:18 pm to coachcrisp
Another dumbfrick Bama Fan talking shite about AU that they know nothing about. Hall replaced Frank Orgel in 85 as D.C. Hall knew the system , but he wasn't the money guy.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:52 pm to coachcrisp
quote:Always wondered, if this was true, why didn't Bowden come clean with the NCAA and roll on Hall when he quit in '98?
Wayne was the defensive line coach, dumbass ....and he did personally deliver the cheese..I know it's a fact....believe what you want...who cares?
Why did he only talk about AU cheating "off the record"?
You can claim your buddy Hall told you all about it, because you're an anonymous internet poster with zero proof. Hell, you won't even name any players who got paid off.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:57 pm to SECdragonmaster
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SECdragonmaster
I assume you're laughing because you know it is true. Otherwise you aren't very smart.
Young paid Means' coaches to steer him to Bama. Two coaches and Young were convicted of federal crimes related to the act. No testimony or accusation was ever presented by the Feds or the NCAA that Means got a dime from Bama or any of the other programs that paid his coaches. The only benefit he got was that the coach arranged for someone else to take the ACT for him.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Darrell 'Lectron' Williams
Lectron Williams was a highly rated RB out of Mobile who was compared by some to Barry Sanders. Williams committed to Auburn in 1989. It was said his commitment cost Auburn another highly sought RB that year and possibly Greg Lewis the next.
William's career fizzled because of injury and his high school coach lambasted Auburn over his treatment. Suddenly Mobile which was an Auburn recruiting stronghold became a recruiting desert.
Ironically it was Florida and Tennessee that took advantage. Not Bama. Also Auburn lost SW Georgia to FSU around the same time. A couple of bad recruiting classes ensued. Mix in the aforementioned staff changes and that's all it takes sometimes.
Lectron Williams was a highly rated RB out of Mobile who was compared by some to Barry Sanders. Williams committed to Auburn in 1989. It was said his commitment cost Auburn another highly sought RB that year and possibly Greg Lewis the next.
William's career fizzled because of injury and his high school coach lambasted Auburn over his treatment. Suddenly Mobile which was an Auburn recruiting stronghold became a recruiting desert.
Ironically it was Florida and Tennessee that took advantage. Not Bama. Also Auburn lost SW Georgia to FSU around the same time. A couple of bad recruiting classes ensued. Mix in the aforementioned staff changes and that's all it takes sometimes.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:29 pm to Paul B Ammer
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was a highly rated RD
No wonder his career fizzled. He played a position no team has on the field.
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