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Oversigning by the numbers......
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:43 pm
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:45 pm to CashMoneyProgram
not saying yours is Germans, but did we really need another thread on this?
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:46 pm to CashMoneyProgram
This appears to have replaced "conference expansion" as this year's off season topic of choice and I am already sick of it.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:48 pm to WDE24
Big 10'ers have latched onto this like some sort of cause. I guess they think if they can convince the NCAA to outlaw oversigning, they stand a better chance in recruiting against the southern teams.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:54 pm to CashMoneyProgram
There's no way five SEC teams, including Auburn, have oversigned more than Alabama. Only Alabama oversigns then cuts people/greyshirts/redshirts/etc. There's just no way those facts are right.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:57 pm to WDE24
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This appears to have replaced "conference expansion" as this year's off season topic of choice and I am already sick of it.
Thank your buddy TiM.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:02 pm to Alahunter
Apparently nobody wants to talk about oversigning when actual facts are presented and its not some 'bash Alabama on speculation and perception' thread.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:02 pm to bigpapamac
quote:You are not really serious are you. These are just gross numbers of those signed on National Signing Day. The real issue, if you want to even call it an issue, is with teams that are signing more players than they have room to enroll under the 85 max scholarship limit.
There's no way five SEC teams, including Auburn, have oversigned more than Alabama. Only Alabama oversigns then cuts people/greyshirts/redshirts/etc. There's just no way those facts are right.
For example, if team A (pun intended) has 75 scholarship players that are academically eligible to return the following season and then signs 25 new recruits in the spring, there are 15 of those players that will not be able to legally enroll in the fall.
The issue is whether all of those 15 players are being handled fairly.
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:02 pm to CashMoneyProgram
What the hell is Troy doing signing 164 over that period?
State of Alabama representing strong with 3 schools in the Top 10
State of Alabama representing strong with 3 schools in the Top 10
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:03 pm to CashMoneyProgram
Nothing better than a good ole oversigning thread. 
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:04 pm to WDE24
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The real issue, if you want to even call it an issue, is with teams that are signing more players than they have room to enroll under the 85 max scholarship limit.
Or the other real issue is when you kick players to make room. Signing as many as Au has and such a low grad rate for black athletes, leads everyone to believe that Au has oversigned and gone crazy getting rid of players to be under like they are.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:05 pm to CashMoneyProgram
Alabama is 6th in the SEC in oversigning? How can this be?
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:05 pm to crimsonsaint
This board is becoming cluttered with over signing threads. Nobody cares about it. If they do, they will get over it, because teams aren't going to quit doing it.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:05 pm to bigpapamac
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There's no way five SEC teams, including Auburn, have oversigned more than Alabama. Only Alabama oversigns then cuts people/greyshirts/redshirts/etc. There's just no way those facts are right.
I'm with you. These facts don't support the other facts. I'm calling BS.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:06 pm to Alahunter
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Signing as many as Au has and such a low grad rate for black athletes, leads me to assume that Au has oversigned and gone crazy getting rid of players to be under like they are.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:07 pm to Alahunter
quote:As does Alabama. If I really thought you believed the BS you spout on this subject I would argue with you.
Au has and such a low grad rate for black athletes
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:09 pm to WDE24
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You are not really serious are you. These are just gross numbers of those signed on National Signing Day. The real issue, if you want to even call it an issue, is with teams that are signing more players than they have room to enroll under the 85 max scholarship limit.
So Auburn makes extra room by not providing their athletes with what they need to stay academically eligible. Bama makes room by cutting for discipline issues and lack of performance.
Either way, when you are signing this many players a year, room is made for the new kids one way or another.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:10 pm to WDE24
Bama's isnt great by any means, but it's at least over 50%. And again, you can thank TiM and his legion for bringing light on this subject in all forms with his incessant threads about it the past few months that many others had fun jumping on. Now that Sports Illustrated has Auburn as the number three in the country in oversigning, he'll get his fill of hearing about it.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:11 pm to gatordmb89
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This board is becoming cluttered with over signing threads. Nobody cares about it. If they do, they will get over it, because teams aren't going to quit doing it.
Boom. Y'all hear that bitches? Y'all need to pull your panties out of your asses, and start posting like champions.
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:12 pm to Monticello
quote:Sometimes, yes, sometimes they just leave for personal reasons and sometimes for disciplinary reasons.
So Auburn makes extra room by not providing their athletes with what they need to stay academically eligible.
quote:Saban claims he has never done this.
Bama makes room by cutting for discipline issues and lack of performance.
quote:Well, you left out the option of those that never qualify or enroll in the first place.
Either way, when you are signing this many players a year, room is made for the new kids one way or another.
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