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re: Over 1/2 of Alabama Season Ticket Holders are not Alums
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:04 pm to Beer Bryant
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:04 pm to Beer Bryant
Is that kid looking at it's arse?
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Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:05 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Well I'm not saying Bama should apologize for anything, but what you're describing isn't broad appeal. What your describing is a weaker economy in Mobile/Birmingham relative to other major cities, and intense local appeal. Broad appeal would be massive people going from Houston, Atlanta to Tuscaloosa, not the other way around.
If the University of Alabama was what had broad appeal, then your statement would make sense. But it's the Alabama sports program that has broad appeal. So it doesn't follow that people would move to Tuscaloosa over a football team. When you have people all over the country supporting your team, then your team has broad appeal, regardless of the reason people live in what city.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:06 pm to jchamil
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Serious question here: what is it that causes others to say it's a weird culture at A&M?
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:06 pm to CatFan81
Yell leaders are just like cheerleaders, but actually effective. Kids go to midnight yell, and also go out to bars. I went to midnight yell 3 times as a student, most times I got drunk. Wasn't weird or mandatory when I did go. Singing and chanting during a college football game is weird? O the humanity.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:08 pm to Crimson Legend
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If the University of Alabama was what had broad appeal, then your statement would make sense. But it's the Alabama sports program that has broad appeal. So it doesn't follow that people would move to Tuscaloosa over a football team. When you have people all over the country supporting your team, then your team has broad appeal, regardless of the reason people live in what city.
I'm not arguing Bama's broad appeal. I'm saying that high numbers of locals going to games isn't indicative of it. Which is the conclusion he was trying to make about how Bama grads go elsewhere for work, and thus high numbers of locals going to the games. I'm just pointing that there is no logic in his statement, not denying the appeal of Bama football.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:10 pm to ksayetiger
Never been to St. Martin parish I see. Trailers and no teeth are commonplace. 
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:11 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Yell leaders are just like cheerleaders, but actually effective.
No, no they're not.
Virginia Tech, whom I loathe, has a huge Corps of Cadets and does NOTHING like that. It's creepy. It's fricking weird. aTm fans are the ONLY fans that think it's normal.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:15 pm to TeLeFaWx
Fawx, I think you misinterpreted his point, though you may still disagree.
The point was that most Alabama graduates do not remain locally, and there are few metropolitan areas in Alabama with appealing job markets, so many UA grads end up in cities across the country and many of the people in the stands are locals who did not attend.
The "broad appeal" comment was a general point to this whole (somewhat stupid) charge that continually gets made about Alabama fans being "sidewalk alums". Why should Alabama apologize for the fact that so many people who did not attend there are fans of the program?
The point was that most Alabama graduates do not remain locally, and there are few metropolitan areas in Alabama with appealing job markets, so many UA grads end up in cities across the country and many of the people in the stands are locals who did not attend.
The "broad appeal" comment was a general point to this whole (somewhat stupid) charge that continually gets made about Alabama fans being "sidewalk alums". Why should Alabama apologize for the fact that so many people who did not attend there are fans of the program?
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:16 pm to CatFan81
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Don't you think that money would be better invested in teeth though?
the Robinsons have all their teeth. not sure about the Swamp People
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:16 pm to bamasgot13
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As stated earlier, people often leave Alabama upon graduation to go to Houston, Atlanta, Nashville, etc for jobs. Those that are local, didn't attend the University, and have the income to support owning season tickets have the right to do so. Why should Alabama apologize for having broad appeal? It's a stupid argument people make.
I absolutely love the assumption that this has to be attributed to the fact that Alabama grads are off to set the world on fire, leaving behind the ingrates to populate the stadium. There is no support for that view and none is even superficially given.
The easier and more logical conclusion is that it is the biggest state school, it has a stadium that holds a lot of people and about half of them you would expect would be people of any particular walk of life that didn't go there, but loved the Bear, had family that went there, or are frontrunners, which let's be honest, frontrunners have no trouble finding a winner.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:17 pm to Crimson Legend
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The "broad appeal" comment was a general point to this whole (somewhat stupid) charge that continually gets made about Alabama fans being "sidewalk alums". Why should Alabama apologize for the fact that so many people who did not attend there are fans of the program?
Yet those fans that are attending games that aren't alumns and own season tickets(the people we are talking about) don't figure in to the broad appeal, they fall in to the intense local appeal crowd.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:17 pm to CatFan81
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That's likely the case with most schools. It's really not thread worthy.
Wrong. I would venture to say most of the Mississippi schools season ticket holders are former grads of said schools.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
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road appeal would be massive people going from Houston, Atlanta to Tuscaloosa
You act like this doesn't happen
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Slightly more than 50 percent of the students who walked on campus as freshman at the beginning of the academic year were from other states or foreign countries. The increasingly large percentage of out-of-state students attending Alabama has set the University apart from other Southeastern Conference schools.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:19 pm to Golfer
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Over 1/2 of Alabama Season Ticket Holders are not Alums
I thought it'd be more that weren't alums
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:20 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Yet those fans that are attending games that aren't alumns and own season tickets(the people we are talking about) don't figure in to the broad appeal, they fall in to the intense local appeal crowd.
Depends on what you mean by "broad". I agree with your point - if a person says a team has "broad appeal", it usually means people outside the area and in other states and regions are fans of the program, like with Notre Dame. But in the context of his question, "broad appeal" simply means "appealing to people beyond the people directly associated with the program". A more precise way to ask the question might be, "Why would Alabama be ashamed of the fact that people with no association to the school are intensely supportive of the program?"
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:20 pm to RTR America
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You act like this doesn't happen
The subject matter is not people that attended the school... it is those that don't... Are y'all seriously retarded? I have never once denied the appeal of Alabama athletics here. I'm seriously beginning to doubt the appeal of Alabama academics, though.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:21 pm to Choctaw
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the Robinsons have all their teeth.
Yes. Except for, perhaps, the Si dude.
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. not sure about the Swamp People
No. No, they don't. They're missing quite a few. That's why I said that you shouldn't pick and choose.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:22 pm to Crimson Legend
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Depends on what you mean by "broad". I agree with your point - if a person says a team has "broad appeal", it usually means people outside the area and in other states and regions are fans of the program, like with Notre Dame. But in the context of his question, "broad appeal" simply means "appealing to people beyond the people directly associated with the program". A more precise way to ask the question might be, "Why would Alabama be ashamed of the fact that people with no association to the school are intensely supportive of the program?"
So the locals that fill up the stadium? He was trying to say that because of Alabama's "broad appeal" they have a high percentage of non-grads in the stands. There is no logic to this statement.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:22 pm to Crimson Legend
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A more precise way to ask the question might be, "Why would Alabama be ashamed of the fact that people with no association to the school are intensely supportive of the program?"
The same reason you think they are unclean when you see them at the store or when they try to clean your windshield at a stop light. Not every association is a good one.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:23 pm to TeamCornbread
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Wrong. I would venture to say most of the Mississippi schools season ticket holders are former grads of said schools.
Well, that would make sense. You know, considering that the state of Mississippi is the poorest state in the country. The alumni are, for the most part, the only ones that can afford season tickets.
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