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re: OU received invite in 2010 but did not think A&M was a good partner
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:38 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:38 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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And I get that, and respect that. I was only saying the SEC wasn't seen as dominant then as it is now
Ah! It was Matt’s El Rancho, not you.
Looks like I replied to the wrong poster.
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:08 am to Mr Sausage
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Sausage
Aaaaaaaaaand there’s my secretary showing up for work, like clockwork.
Three years and still no paycheck.
I like how even my responses to Texas Trolls still draws you out like a copper wire, babe.
Now go get me a coffee, hon :quickLittleAssSlapGif:
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 6:27 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:27 am to dstone12
no comeback. as expected. 
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:39 am to KCM0Tiger
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All of you that hate Missouri being in the SEC can directly thank good ol’ David Boren from Oklahoma. He’s the guy that held a “we won’t be a wallflower” press conference live while our leadership was desperately holding a closed door meeting trying to unite the Big 12. It pissed our normally-milquetoast leadership off so much that they said “frick it” and ultimately engaged with the SEC.
David Boren put Missouri in the SEC.
It irrationally infuriates me when Mizzou gets blamed for the collapse of the Big 12 as we knew it. In reality, Mizzou was the largest Big 12 school by revenue to vote for equal revenue sharing right up until the conference collapsed. And it was the Texas schools, Oklahoma schools, and Colorado who tried to bolt for the PAC first. Of course, that ended up being only Colorado who headed west. Then Nebraska saw the writing on the wall and bolted for the Big Ten. Then we got Boren's "wallflower" comments, and like you said, Mizzou, for the first and only time in its athletic program's history, took some initiative and found themselves in the SEC a short while later alongside A&M. I have always failed to understand how Mizzou, the fourth school to leave the conference, and one of the few that had been fighting to save it, is faulted with the collapse of the Big 12.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:47 am to Matts El Rancho
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Also, that aggie was talking about Texas falling back to "normal state of irrelevance" which is comical considering Texas had (i) just finished as the winningest power conference football program the prior decade and (ii) just played for a national title in football, baseball and volleyball the prior year, something a&m has never accomplished in the last 84 years and likely will never accomplish
Here comes the Longhorn statisticians torturing data to try and buck up their resume.
Fact . . .Going into the Mack Brown era, Texas had been pretty irrelevant in football Brown since Fred Akers first few years.
Fact . . . .Oklahoma was actually the winningest program during the 2000-2010 stretch you reference, not Texas.
Fact . .. . . Texas could muster just 2 conference titles in a crappy Big 12 during this supposed unbelievable run. Oklahoma had 7 in the same stretch.
Fact- You dumb motherfu#$ers ran off Mack Brown, hired Charlie Strong, and were back to losing seasons, missing bowl games, and geneeally being irrelevant just like you were prior to Mack's brief stint in Austin.
So the original remains. Oklahoma should have cut ties with Texas and been its own advocate as it has always been a better football product.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:48 am to turnpiketiger
The OU fan base was divided during this time. You had to booster group that wanted to go with A&M and the booster group that didn't want to leave Texas. Both groups at the time didn't think they could divorce themselves from OSU, and knew that wasn't an attractive package.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:49 am to MackDaddyBrown
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Y'all were begging for a Big 10 invite and never got one
It's funny how things work out. It's fair to say that the majority of Mizzou fans would have preferred the Big Ten over the SEC back in 2010/2011. And the truth is nobody knows exactly what happened between Mizzou and the Big Ten - there are only rumors. But obviously we did not end up there, but we did find a seat in the strongest conference in the country, as an equal member.
And then a decade later, we got to watch Texas beg Mizzou for a "yes" vote to join the SEC as well. It's a good thing that we out here in humble Missouri aren't plagued by your Texas arrogance, because otherwise, we might have just remembered how Texas ruined our conference of 100+ years, moved the conference headquarters to Texas from Missouri, created a Longhorn Network that effectively precluded a Big 12 Network, created a league of minions in the Texas and Oklahoma schools to do your bidding, and then your AD made comments like this:
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"We’re going to have good years again,” Dodds promised. “Our bad years are not that bad. Take a school like Missouri. Our bad years are better than their good years. But we’ve created a standard."
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Of course, the year he made that comment coincided with back-to-back division championships for Mizzou while Texas went 8-5 and then 6-7 against the little sisters of the poor.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:09 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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We literally played in the title game earlier that year. OU played in it a year earlier. And 2010’s SEC is nothing like 2023’s.
The SEC had won 5 NC in the 2000s, 6 in the 2010's, and 3 so far in 2020's
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We literally played in the title game earlier that year. OU played in it a year earlier. And 2010’s SEC is nothing like 2023’s.
And lost both times to SEC teams
The Big 12 has won 2 NC since 2000, but has lost many title or playoff games to the SEC during that time.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:13 am to TideFaninFl
Again, no where did anyone say the Big 12 was considered better then.
You morons just can’t help yourselves, can you?
You morons just can’t help yourselves, can you?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:19 am to Windy City
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Fact . . . .Oklahoma was actually the winningest program during the 2000-2010 stretch you reference, not Texas.
Texas: 110-19 (.853)
Oklahoma: 110-24 (.821)
Now... I know numbers are hard for you considering you got your degree from a&m, and I know the concept of a "decade" must be tough to grasp as well (2000-2010 would constitute 11 seasons), but I'm fairly certain .853 > .821
Also, that's not really a stretch considering Texas was, and still is, in the top 10 in all-time wins. So your original comment didn't make any sense.
quote:This is awkward... when's the last time a&m even played for a conference title?
Fact . .. . . Texas could muster just 2 conference titles in a crappy Big 12 during this supposed unbelievable run. Oklahoma had 7 in the same stretch.
quote:Yea... because Texas just had losing season after losing season in the 50 years before Mack, huh?
back to losing seasons, missing bowl games, and geneeally being irrelevant just like you were prior to Mack's brief stint in Austin.
Wow you are REALLY bad at this. Maybe stop while you're miles behind
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:22 am to PerrillouxToTexas
Like I said... the poor academic reputation most SEC schools are known for definitely shows itself on this site
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:24 am to Matts El Rancho
Yet, yall are the ones coattail riding.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:28 am to Ezra Blu Boudroux
quote:How so?
Yet, yall are the ones coattail riding
Pretty sure the SEC voted Texas and OU in unanimously after seeing what a failure of an addition a&m was 10 years ago
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:32 am to BreakawayZou83
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It irrationally infuriates me when Mizzou gets blamed for the collapse of the Big 12 as we knew it.
I seriously cannot think of one single person that has ever blamed Mizz for the collapse of a conference.
Akin to Cajunbama thinking he collapsed First Republic Bank by withdrawing his life savings.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:37 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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Again, no where did anyone say the Big 12 was considered better then.
You morons just can’t help yourselves, can you?
I was just proving that the SEC was highly regarded even during the time you referenced. While several people around the nation may not think so, the SEC has been highly regarded since 1950 (The SEC averages 3 NC per decade)
50-3
60-3
70-3
80-1
90-3
00-5
10-6
20-3 so far
While the Big 12 was second for a while (with NU leading the way) it fell apart. I am not sure what conference is considered second now
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:42 am to Matts El Rancho
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Like I said... the poor academic reputation most SEC schools are known for definitely shows itself on this site
Just like y'all saying the SEC was not highly regarded in sports (which is laughable), the academic reputation of the SEC is also far better than people around the country think. Just for example, Huntsville Alabama got man to the moon and back. There is a reason why Huntsville also is the top choice for the new Space Command.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:52 am to TideFaninFl
quote:Literally nobody said this?
Just like y'all saying the SEC was not highly regarded in sports (which is laughable)
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:54 am to TideFaninFl
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Huntsville Alabama got man to the moon and back. There is a reason why Huntsville also is the top choice for the new Space Command.
Well . . . .I think it was actually NASA which was utilizing some of the best scientific minds from all over the country and beyond including some former Nazis. Lets not give all that credit to the locals.
And the Marshall center was just one team along with a very large group of folks in Houston.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:58 am to Windy City
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Well . . . .I think it was actually NASA which was utilizing some of the best scientific minds from all over the country and beyond including some former Nazis. Lets not give all that credit to the locals.
And the Marshall center was just one team along with a very large group of folks in Houston.
I've had this discussion with him before, he doesn't understand it.
muh Huntsville sent men to da moon ro tahd
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:23 am to Windy City
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Well . . . .I think it was actually NASA which was utilizing some of the best scientific minds from all over the country and beyond including some former Nazis. Lets not give all that credit to the locals.
And the Marshall center was just one team along with a very large group of folks in Houston.
Well you see I was there, and saw. While many of you try and diminish why Huntsville was picked. It was due to the local talent. The "large group from Houston" never happened. The only thing Houston got, because of Johnson wanting Texas to be included, was "mission control" (a taxi dispatch service)
Huntsville was a clearing house and had final say on everything about the Apollo missions. While several things were built elsewhere, they had to have approval from Huntsville.
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