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re: Other than the 1998 anomaly, what has Tennessee accomplished
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:32 am to cajunbama
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:32 am to cajunbama
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Bear never coached against the private at Alabama
Something tells me Bryant would think you were a giant douchebag like most everyone else here thinks about you.
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:32 am to cajunbama
Why do you insist on calling General Neyland a private?
Do you not respect the armed forces and veterans' service? Does it bother you that Neyland was a better coach than Bryant without even devoting his life to coaching?
Do you not respect the armed forces and veterans' service? Does it bother you that Neyland was a better coach than Bryant without even devoting his life to coaching?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:37 am to cajunbama
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Since expansion to be considered relevant to modern college football and a bona fide member of the Big Six?
They lucked into making the BCSCG because of a miracle fluke fumble by Arkansas at that.
I'm just now reading the OP, and I'm sure there have been several responses already... but this is just ridiculous.
First off, since you used the 1992 expansion as your starting point, let's look at overall winning percentage since 1992:
1) Florida- 74.6%
2) Georgia- 70.7%
3) LSU- 68.4%
4) Alabama- 67.8%
5) Auburn- 67.1%
6) Tennessee- 67.0%
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7) Arkansas- 54.9%
8) Ole Miss- 54.0%
9) S. Carolina- 53.1%
10) Mississippi St.- 50.0%
Texas A&M is at 63.7% and Missouri is at 53.9%, but they played in much easier leagues during this time frame, so I left them out.
Now if you can't see the gaping drop-off between Tennessee and Arkansas, I can't help you.
But there is a reason its known as the "Big 6". If you look at the programs of the SEC over any large historical time frame, those six stand out by leaps and bounds.
And if Tennessee can be within 1% of both Alabama and Auburn's winning percentages over a 25-year or so period that includes their darkest days as a program, then they are absolutely part of the club.
With that said, UT can't keep going on for the next 15 years as they've done for the last 15 years and hope that the other Big 6 fans will come to their rescue. It will still take quite awhile for them to drop out of the club, but the last 15 years have been dreadful.
At least they seem to be trending upwards now.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:37 am to Volatile
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Does it bother you that Neyland was a better coach than Bryant without even devoting his life to coaching?
Things that are not true don't particularly bother me. And Bob should have devoted more time to winning bowl games. His failure in bowls is a big reason he is essentially forgotten.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:38 am to cajunbama
Tennessee brought butt-chugging into the American consciousness...
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:41 am to ConwayGamecock
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:04 pm to cajunbama
Nobody gave a damn about bowls in the 30s. They were pretty much glorified exhibition games that didn't matter that much. They awarded national championships BEFORE bowl games. Just to give you an idea of how much they mattered.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:05 pm to ConwayGamecock
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Tennessee brought butt-chugging into the American consciousness...
Jackass did it first
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:06 pm to cajunbama
Marrying first cousins was made popular by hillbillies in thar Tenursee mountans.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:28 pm to cajunbama
The Vols best days are behind them. tDecline is real.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:51 pm to Volatile
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Does it bother you that Neyland was a better coach than Bryant without even devoting his life to coaching?
You don't know what you're talking about. His entire life revolved around athletics and coaching. He did a brief tour in the Army and then became an aide de camp (errand boy) for MacArthur at West Point and what did he do there? He coached the football team.
He then went to UT as professor of military science (easiest job in the military) and did what....coached football. He did that for almost a decade. Did another 1 yr tour somewhere and came right back to coaching.
Like every other male in the country, he went back for WWII and after that, what did he do...went back to coaching.
He devoted his life to athletics and coaching. The military interrupted it a few times. No one retires as a BG unless it's a brevet promotion, which means the rank is a parting gift.
Respect his service but keep it in perspective. He maintained affiliation with the military but his life was dedicated to athletics and coaching.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:27 pm to sullivanct19a
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He devoted his life to athletics and coaching. The military interrupted it a few times
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Respect his service but keep it in perspective
During his service he was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal (presented to any person who, while serving in any capacity with the United States military, has distinguished himself or herself by exceptionally meritorious service to the Government in a duty of great responsibility), Legion of Merit (given for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services and achievements) and made a member of the Order of the British Empire
Do they just hand that stuff out for free?
Just stop.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:40 pm to VFL1800FPD
They might if you are MacArthur's yard boy.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:47 pm to cajunbama
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:01 pm to Volatile
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Nobody gave a damn about bowls in the 30s. They were pretty much glorified exhibition games that didn't matter that much. They awarded national championships BEFORE bowl games. Just to give you an idea of how much they mattered.
They gave a damn about the Rose because that was the biggest and longest lasting (since 1902) at the time. It wasn't until 1935 that other bowl games were anything but temporary and expected to be temporary. There were a whole slew of bowl games nobody has ever heard of because they were, as you said, essentially exhibition matches. In the mid-'30s, that mindset started to change and the very idea of a bowl game became more prestigious. The polls didn't catch up for decades, granted, but that doesn't mean bowls were considered inconsequential once the big names like the Sugar, Orange, and Cotton started rolling alongside the Rose.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:02 pm to cajunbama
quote:don't forget that fsu started a guy that had never played in a game before at QB.
They lucked into making the BCSCG because of a miracle fluke fumble by Arkansas at that.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:06 pm to TT9
Yep. 1998 was the very definition of an anomaly.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:08 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Bama had 3 win seasons in the 90s
Also won 2 SEC Titles and 1 National Championship.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:12 pm to TT9
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don't forget that fsu started a guy that had never played in a game before at QB.
Backup QBs tend to do well against the Vols, that's not really much of a point
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:16 pm to VFL1800FPD
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During his service he was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal (presented to any person who, while serving in any capacity with the United States military, has distinguished himself or herself by exceptionally meritorious service to the Government in a duty of great responsibility), Legion of Merit (given for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services and achievements) and made a member of the Order of the British Empire
Do they just hand that stuff out for free?
Just stop.
You're a bigger idiot than I first assumed.
You know nothing about the military and awards. DSM and LOM are 'career' awards. I'm betting the other was simply given to people of a certain rank due to wartime service in or in proximity to British territories / units.
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