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re: Other than the 1998 anomaly, what has Tennessee accomplished

Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:19 am to
Posted by rockytop627
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:19 am to
We'll probably just so happen to stumble into another win against you next year.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:25 am to
UT is the second most accomplished football program in SEC history, behind Alabama. They have the second most national championships, second highest winning percentage, and I believe second most conference championships. Their problems started with firing Fulmer. When they actually hire a real coach, they'll be back to competing for championships.
Posted by Iron Lion
North of the river
Member since Nov 2014
11801 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:31 am to
I hate Tennessee as much as most Bama fans do but that 98 team was a good football team. Every championship team has one game that has a lucky bounce go their way. Bama had to block 2 kicks against Tennessee in 2009 to win that game and only beat La Tech 13-0 in 1992. shite like that happens.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:42 am to
Firing Fulmer was stupid. If you look at his winning percentage it's even more stupid. But this is the Sec where any down times get you fired fast. Any program, and I do mean any program despite having a good coach will eventually see down times. Some recruits just don't pan out, some get into trouble or you hit that cycle where you lose so many top athletes back to back that you go into rebuilding mode. It's not fair but thus is the coaching job at the best conference in the nation.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:46 am to
(even though they technically didn't win the championship) the most extreme example of this is Auburn 2013. They had TWO 1-in-a million plays go their way, but it doesn't make their status as nat'l runners-up any less legitimate. They were fluky plays, but sometimes those just happen.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:58 am to
Mississippi State should have beat them that year. We were right there and blew it. In fact, Auburn's 2010 NT we really should have beat them too. Lost 17-14 and I dare say many gave Cam Newton a game like we did that year. But that's the difference in this conference winning or losing and going to a NT.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 2:05 am
Posted by Iron Lion
North of the river
Member since Nov 2014
11801 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:34 am to
Y'all played him about as well as anyone did that year. We held Cam in check the first half of the Iron Bowl then he shredded us in the 2nd half.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:44 am to
Didn't they beat Bama like 7 times in a row in the 90s and early 00s?
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:50 am to
Tennessee beat Bama 7 straight between 1995 and 2001.. But who's counting
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 3:51 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:11 am to
They almost beat Muschamp. Almost. I hear nine win seasons are huge there. It's a national title type season. Almost beat their daddy, Uf. Almost got double digit wins.

Note Georgia fired a coach who got them ten wins constantly. Uf calls ten wins a rebuilding season. Tenn calls nine wins a historical year.

Such a pathetic group. So mouthy yet never doing anything. 11 straight. They will say the same thing next year when it's 12 straight. Sad little nobodies.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:32 am to
quote:

Firing Fulmer was stupid. If you look at his winning percentage it's even more stupid. But this is the Sec where any down times get you fired fast. Any program, and I do mean any program despite having a good coach will eventually see down times. Some recruits just don't pan out, some get into trouble or you hit that cycle where you lose so many top athletes back to back that you go into rebuilding mode. It's not fair but thus is the coaching job at the best conference in the nation.


I think a very large factor in firing Fulmer was the simple fact that fans had gotten bored with him and when we had some bust recruits the AD was too ready to pull the plug. But Fulmer had been there so long we took both him and the success for granted and thought the success would always be there even if Phil wasn't. In many ways he was a victim of his own success and the fan entitlement that had developed because of it.

After 17 years, the natives were restless and wanted an expensive shiny new toy. Fans wanted flash and excitement and the AD went out and got just that. Kiffin was the anti-Fulmer in every way imaginable and we paid in just about every way imaginable for that hire, including getting stuck with Dooley when Kiffin decided to pack up in the middle of January after the hiring season was over and raid the recruiting class on his way out.

In a lot of ways, I think UGA made a very similar mistake firing Richt and hiring Smart (another shiny new toy that gets fans excited but nothing other than blind hope that he'll do better than the last guy, who make no mistake is a very good football coach, to backup the hiring/firing decision). It may wind up working out for them but there's not much to support the decision in the here and now other than that hope. That said, Smart won't do UGA the way Kiffin did UT so they should be in better shape there if he doesn't work out.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:03 am to
quote:

They have the second most national championships



This is so wrong. If you read the thread you will see that Tenner has the 98 anomaly. And it's not an anomaly because of Arkansas giving them an unforced turnover that allowed them to win, it's an anomaly because it's the only quasi-legit NC they have in their history.

Big 6 status revoked.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 6:21 am
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:20 am to
quote:

cajunbama


quote:

They lucked into making the BCSCG because of a miracle fluke fumble by Arkansas at that.



That was one of the luckiest plays ever. UT QB Tee Martin couldnt hit water with an anchor. They also lucked out at home against UF because we had no FG kicker. They never really beat anyone of note....just got back by skin of their teeth. BTW I dont recall the BCS in play during 1998.

They never answered my question about when was the last time they won a basketball NC. They are ashamed to tell us.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:23 am to
They should be ashamed for masquerading as a historically elite SEC program when they really are not.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:29 am to
UT is not a true "Big 6" team
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:31 am to
FACT!!! UTk is second tier.

Tenner is the nadir of historical elite SEC programs.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 6:32 am
Posted by RollDawgRoll
Member since Sep 2009
1944 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 6:33 am to
Peyton Manning almost won a Heisman, so I guess that's something,
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 7:55 am to
Horse head wasn't deserving.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:09 am to
is this just some pitiful internet persona or are you a complete horse's behind in real life,too?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:21 am to
Stay out of this old man.
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