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re: Orgeron won't last 2 seasons

Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:30 am to
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LSU reminds me a lot of how Tennessee did it in the late 90s early 2000s.


This says you are clueless. UT and LSU are polar opposites
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19351 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:46 am to
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His replacement is on staff


Who dis? (serious question)
Posted by Ghost Hog
Earth
Member since May 2015
451 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:49 am to
Under Phil Fulmer

1997 Tennessee 11–2
1998 Tennessee 13–0
1999 Tennessee 9–3
2000 Tennessee 8–4
2001 Tennessee 11–2
2002 Tennessee 8–5
2003 Tennessee 10–3
2004 Tennessee 10–3
2005 Tennessee 5–6
2006 Tennessee 9–4
2007 Tennessee 10–4
2008 Tennessee 5–7

109-43 71% Winning percentage, 1 NC

Under Les

2005 LSU 11–2
2006 LSU 11–2
2007 LSU 12–2
2008 LSU 8–5
2009 LSU 9–4
2010 LSU 11–2
2011 LSU 13–1
2012 LSU 10–3
2013 LSU 10–3
2014 LSU 8–5
2015 LSU 9–3
2016 LSU 2–2

114-34 77% winning percentage 1 NC

Polar Opposites.

O is your Dooley. Yaw Yaw
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:53 am to
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His head coaching record is poo, he won't have a winning season while he's there




So based on that statement. Pete Carroll should have never been given a chance after NE. Bill Belichick after Cleveland. Saban after Miami. Why can't some of you get that Orgeron is not the same coach today that he was at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:59 am to
Welcome to 2016
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Y'all loved the Cam hire. He developed Brees member



no doubt

lots felt this way too

both can be true, and are
Posted by reggieray420
Member since Dec 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:24 am to
No comeback for that picture
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:59 am to
Hmmm you don't really understand what you said in the first place if you are basing it on wins/losses.

LSU and UT are polar opposites in the way the programs operate. LSU doesn't have to go out of state to get recruits nearly as much as IT. That's just a start. So comparing won/loss records really has nothing to do with the point you originally made, which obviously went over your own head
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:04 am to
Negatigers and trolls stink , especially the nega tigers !
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:04 am to
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So based on that statement. Pete Carroll should have never been given a chance after NE. Bill Belichick after Cleveland. Saban after Miami. Why can't some of you get that Orgeron is not the same coach today that he was at Ole Miss.



To be fair, Carroll and Saban could carry a conversation with intelligible speech.

O will be fine for a while as long as he recruits like his resume states he will and delegates to quality coordinators/staff.

The good news is that he can do some crazy arse stuff, say some crazy as stuff and nobody will be too alarmed based on his predecessor.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16660 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:15 am to
Orgeron speaks the truth, whether people like it or not.

It beats listening to Miles talk about his daughter's softball game for half an hour then end his presser with "this team has the want to improve, I think you'll see that".

Outside of maybe Jimbo Fisher, Ed Orgeron was the best fit for LSU football.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:17 am to
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Because they suck


Yea,Auburn is the model all schools want to emulate.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:36 am to
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Terrible hire


I wasn't happy about it when it went down. I would have been ecstatic with Herman or Fisher, but those didn't happen.
After those two you're in the second tier real quick.
Orgeron was the right call at the time. Made some important changes in the time he was given and kept the recruiting class together and will continue to recruit Louisiana very well.
We don't know if Aranda would have left if an outsider would have been hired but it's extremely significant that he stayed.

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Orgeron won't last 2 seasons

Who knows. I hate the whole idea of a decent coach with elite surrounding coordinators because they'll always leave for better jobs. We really don't know how he'll do on his own two feet, but if Aranda and Canada move on after this season and he loses 5 games in 2018 he'll be on a very short leash. It would take a pretty drastic meltdown for him to be gone in 2 seasons though.

quote:

LSU is a dumpster fire

We've averaged around the 4th best recruiting classes over the past 7 years. Obviously second in the SEC and better than anyone not named Alabama, Ohio State, or Florida State. We have spectacular facilities, rabid fan support, the second largest venue in the SEC (6th - I think - in the country), a pipeline to the NFL, a unique and deep recruiting territory, and a great staff. So.. I feel like "dumpster fire" might be a little harsh.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16660 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:39 am to
Herman did absolutely nothing to deserve the LSU job. His resume screams "The Next Kevin Sumlin".

Zero influence in Louisiana, not much at all in Texas and lost to Navy & SMU last year.

No thanks, maybe he'll get Texas back to over .500 for the first time in 4 years.

Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:52 am to
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Herman did absolutely nothing to deserve the LSU job. His resume screams "The Next Kevin Sumlin".


That's ridiculous. In his coordinator positions at Iowa State and Ohio State, and his Head coaching gig at Houston he's played 14 games as an underdog and lost one. As an offensive coordinator at Iowa state. That's not really Sumlin esque. Sumlin has won maybe (MAYBE!!) 25 percent of his games as an underdog.


LINK

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Zero influence in Louisiana

Winning changes your sphere of influence. There was a time when no one in Louisiana or Alabama knew who Saban was.
quote:

not much at all in Texas

Herman recruited the first 5 star athlete to a non power 5 school EVER in his first year. One that LSU and Texas were recruiting hard. and another former 5 star QB is transferring there.

quote:

No thanks, maybe he'll get Texas back to over .500 for the first time in 4 years.

I think he'll bring Texas back to national prominence pretty quickly. Hopefully Saban will be gone or dead by then because that will put some serious recruiting pressure on LSU.
Posted by soleckma
Member since Nov 2013
994 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:53 am to
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Herman did absolutely nothing to deserve the LSU job. His resume screams "The Next Kevin Sumlin".


Don't act like your whole fan base wasn't drooling at the chance to get him.


You're acting like the guy who gets dumped by his hot ex then pretends it was his idea.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68322 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:54 am to
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O is your Dooley. Yaw Yaw


Did Dooley have Dave Aranda and Matt Canada?
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16660 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:00 pm to
Derek Dooley is no more than Dez Bryant's little bitch.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16660 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Herman recruited the first 5 star athlete to a non power 5 school EVER in his first year.


Because having his older brother and old high school coach on the team had nothing to do with that, right?

Herman is a flash in the pan, just like Charlie was.

We saw how that worked out.

Posted by Ghost Hog
Earth
Member since May 2015
451 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:48 pm to
No. The current offensive and defensive coordinators for LSU never coached for Derek Dooley. You guys sure are placing a lot of hope in Canada.
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