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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:51 am to prevatt33
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Only one scenario keeps a 1-loss Bama out of the playoffs:
You Bammers honestly think you are entitled to a playoff spot.
Suppose LSU loses a game. How about a 1 loss LSU team being chosen over you? How about that?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:53 am to prevatt33
Honestly, The average American adult is ignorant and uninformed, hopped up on psychotropic prescription medication (based on overwhelming statistics and my own observation), or a combination of the 2. I take great pride in holding a contrary point of view to any group of Americans on any topic, as I am about 50 IQ points higher than the average American, lucid, and well-informed.
Anyone who holds the opinion of a group of average Americans should always beware, GROUP and AVERAGE being the key words.
If this causes you to have a negative reaction, good.
Anyone who holds the opinion of a group of average Americans should always beware, GROUP and AVERAGE being the key words.
If this causes you to have a negative reaction, good.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:53 am to prevatt33
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Honestly, The average American adult is ignorant and uninformed, hopped up on psychotropic prescription medication (based on overwhelming statistics and my own observation), or a combination of the 2. I take great pride in holding a contrary point of view to any group of Americans on any topic, as I am about 50 IQ points higher than the average American, lucid, and well-informed.
Anyone who holds the opinion of a group of average Americans should always beware, GROUP and AVERAGE being the key words.
If this causes you to have a negative reaction, good.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:54 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Suppose LSU loses a game. How about a 1 loss LSU team being chosen over you? How about that?
LSU beating Bama keeps Bama out, which has been previously stated. Any 1 loss SEC champion is in, as previously stated.
Shall I review anything else?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:57 am to DBU
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Do y'all have a bye week before Vandy?
If not, that could be a trap game because of their defense.
Ole Miss, Mizzou, UT, and LSU all have good defenses...
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That said, I think y'all win out. Can't wait to see y'all again in Atlanta.
Agreed, first game was a lot of fun. Second should be even better.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:58 am to KajunGator
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Ole Miss, Mizzou, UT, and LSU all have good defenses...
I meant that more because it's the week right after UGA.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:58 am to prevatt33
So has it been established yet that rankings at the end of the season matter, not rankings when the games were played? Just checking to see if that bullshite was still in play or not.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:59 am to prevatt33
Ole Miss wins out completely ruins it for everyone. Just sit back and enjoy Clemson vs Baylor in the final.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:04 am to DBU
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I meant that more because it's the week right after UGA.
And Ole Miss was the week after UT.
We've had our opportunities to play a "let down" game...fortunately it hasn't happened (yet). The Vandy game may indeed turn out to be a trap game if we get past UGA and our team loses focus after locking up the East. Hopefully it doesn't happen and we get to Atlanta with 1 loss.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:20 am to KajunGator
Jeff Long Article 1
Jeff Long Article 2
Notice, he did not say BIG 10 championship. He said 13th game and quality win.
Other key words repeated are "body of work" and "performance on the field". Ergo, all teams will be judged on those criteria, not some checklist of accomplishments like conference titles.
And honestly, if Bama's oline and penalty situation don't improve, we won't look good enough to get in regardless of wins/losses. Eye test is MONUMENTAL.
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You noted on ESPN that some of Mississippi State's wins came against teams previously ranked. Why should past rankings be a criteria if those teams have shown to not be as good as they were when they were ranked? Well, it's just something the committee discusses. We know if a team was previously ranked 14, 15, 16, and you know what, teams played differently part of the year. A team that may have been playing very well at the beginning of the season, whether through injuries or level of competition, they're not playing as well. It's not a criteria, but we certainly discuss and know when a team was previously ranked in the top 25.
Jeff Long Article 2
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Ohio State's performance in a 13th game gave them a quality win against a highly ranked team that allowed them to move into that fourth spot."
Notice, he did not say BIG 10 championship. He said 13th game and quality win.
Other key words repeated are "body of work" and "performance on the field". Ergo, all teams will be judged on those criteria, not some checklist of accomplishments like conference titles.
And honestly, if Bama's oline and penalty situation don't improve, we won't look good enough to get in regardless of wins/losses. Eye test is MONUMENTAL.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:31 am to prevatt33
Right, but that's talking about teams that had legitimate concerns. Injuries, QBs starting their second game, tough stretches of a schedule, etc. Sometimes, a team just isn't very good. Georgia needs to win for Bama to benefit at all from that win. No one cares where they were when Bama beat them, except you.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:41 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Right, but that's talking about teams that had legitimate concerns. Injuries, QBs starting their second game, tough stretches of a schedule, etc. Sometimes, a team just isn't very good. Georgia needs to win for Bama to benefit at all from that win. No one cares where they were when Bama beat them, except you.
Of course there is more to the equation. However, it has been the prevailing opinion in this thread that final rankings and opinions at the end of the season are the only way to judge the quality of a win or loss, and Jeff Long just directly stated that this is not the case. Period.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:44 am to prevatt33
Don't worry it will work out perfect for y'all.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:46 am to prevatt33
I don't know who was saying final rankings are all that matters. It's not even up for debate that final rankings will mean more than rankings at the time played. I'm sure the committee "considers" plenty of information that is ultimately as meaningless as those rankings. Period.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:56 am to prevatt33
A one loss SEC champ most likely makes the playoffs.
A one loss Bama that isn't the SEC champ most likely does not make the playoffs.
That's about it
A one loss Bama that isn't the SEC champ most likely does not make the playoffs.
That's about it
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:59 am to MIZ_COU
Agree but I'm not a super-genius apparently.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:37 pm to DBU
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No non-conference champion is going to the CFP.
CC's are only 1 game. If a 1 loss Clemson plays a 2 loss Duke in their CC it won't count as much as a 1 loss Bama having played 3 top 10 teams during it's schedule. Regardless if Bama went to it's CC.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:28 pm to OldPete
[quote]Definitely sucked for LSU that year and, in like circumstances, I wouldn't have been a happy camper either.[/quote/]
I appreciate your honesty. I know that the goal of the BCS was to put the two best teams (in their opinion) into the Championship game. And after all the computer BS and the human polls, those two teams just happened to be LSU and Alabama. The thing that I get hung up on though, is one team winning their conference while the other doesn't even win their division.
I also seem to recall how all season long, the so called experts kept going on and on about the Big 12 being so strong that year. Add that to the "every game counts" motto that the NCAA preached yearly, it's hard not to come to the conclusion that bama was chosen over Ok.St. due to being a "media darling"
I appreciate your honesty. I know that the goal of the BCS was to put the two best teams (in their opinion) into the Championship game. And after all the computer BS and the human polls, those two teams just happened to be LSU and Alabama. The thing that I get hung up on though, is one team winning their conference while the other doesn't even win their division.
I also seem to recall how all season long, the so called experts kept going on and on about the Big 12 being so strong that year. Add that to the "every game counts" motto that the NCAA preached yearly, it's hard not to come to the conclusion that bama was chosen over Ok.St. due to being a "media darling"
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:49 pm to prevatt33
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100% wrong.
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Any polls that are taken into consideration by the selection committee must be completely open and transparent to the public;
Guess you missed this part from your OWN link:
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While it is understood that committee members will take into consideration all kinds of data including polls, committee members will be required to discredit polls wherein initial rankings are established before competition has occurred;
So no, dumbass, Alabama has not beaten two top ten teams in the eyes of the committee.
LINK
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