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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:28 am to prevatt33
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It's not only about who you lost to, it's who you beat.
Funny that that wasn't the criteria back in 2011 when Okie State played more ranked teams then bama but got screwed out of the national championship because they lost to Iowa State.
Played a tougher schedule and won their conference but all that mattered that year was them losing to lowly Iowa State. Bama didn't win their conference much less their division, but again, all that mattered was the loss to the Cyclones.
You're probably right about that being the case for this year though. Whatever works in favor of bama.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:47 am to earl keese
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Funny that that wasn't the criteria back in 2011 when Okie State played more ranked teams then bama but got screwed out of the national championship because they lost to Iowa State.
Played a tougher schedule and won their conference but all that mattered that year was them losing to lowly Iowa State. Bama didn't win their conference much less their division, but again, all that mattered was the loss to the Cyclones.
You're probably right about that being the case for this year though. Whatever works in favor of bama.
I just looked up the 2011 records. Bama beat 4 top-25 teams and lost to the number 1 team in the country, LSU, by 3 in overtime. OkSt also beat 4 top-25 teams and lost, also in overtime, but by 6, to a 5-4 unranked team who was 2-4 in their conference as of game-time with OkSt.
Bama's 2011 results
OkSt's 2011 results
So, what are you talking about?
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:51 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:52 am to prevatt33
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So, what are you talking about?
I think he was talking about how Bama didn't deserve to get another shot. LSU wouldn't have gotten that chance if it had been them losing 9-6. They were the ones with the toughest schedule at that and there's no way in hell that would have happened. Crazy, right? LSU won when it mattered. Then had to play an extra top 10 team just to make the championship game. Bama got to sit around and prepare for one game in which they had all the motivation in the world to win. Bama had the advantage based off of already losing a game the way they did in their own stadium. I'm not saying Bama wasn't worthy of a chance, I'm saying that LSU was screwed from the get go. It made it entirely pointless to even have a regular season for either of them. They both could have just played each other the first game of the season having never met before, game planned all off season and have the national championship then.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:19 am to prevatt33
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So, what are you talking about?
I 'm not going to spend the time to look up a bunch of shite about teams that I don't give a hoot about, but for starters, Oklahoma State won their conference championship and bama didn't. I know that won't matter to anyone but those are facts. I also remember ESPN talking about SOS and Oklahoma States was stronger than bamas. The other thing that all the so called experts kept talking about was bamas loss looking better than Oklahoma States.
First time I recall people judging a teams loss over another teams SOS or conference championship. The fact of the matter is, if you were to reverse the records for those two teams, all that would have mattered would have been SOS and a conference championship.
Bama was pushed into that National Championship strictly because they were alabama. Oklahoma State was left out strictly because they aren't a media darling.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:30 am to ShreveportHog94
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I think he was talking about how Bama didn't deserve to get another shot.
Exactly my point. Thank you ShreveportHog.
I know bama fans, sour grapes, right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:52 am to prevatt33
Only way a one loss Bama misses out is if the money doesn't clear in time.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:50 am to prevatt33
Bama absolutely has to win the conference.
The committee has made a point as of last year, that all records being equal conf champions will be the tie breaker, period. I have no idea why people cannot get past this. At this point on , this season , only the SEC faithful believe that the SEC is greater than all others. Every other conference believes there is no difference, top heavy with a couple of teams.
If, Stanford, Utah, Mich State, tOSU, Iowa, Ok St, TCU, Baylor, OU, FSU, Clemson, UNC,Duke, Pitt, whoever wins a P5 conference with 1 loss or less they are in over a 1 loss non champion SEC team.
The committee has made a point as of last year, that all records being equal conf champions will be the tie breaker, period. I have no idea why people cannot get past this. At this point on , this season , only the SEC faithful believe that the SEC is greater than all others. Every other conference believes there is no difference, top heavy with a couple of teams.
If, Stanford, Utah, Mich State, tOSU, Iowa, Ok St, TCU, Baylor, OU, FSU, Clemson, UNC,Duke, Pitt, whoever wins a P5 conference with 1 loss or less they are in over a 1 loss non champion SEC team.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:01 am to prevatt33
I'm glad I don't have to think about this because Alabama is going to have more than one loss.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:09 am to prevatt33
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The committee has empasized that it uses the ranking/reputation of the team at that time, not at the end of the year.
They won't treat A&M, Georgia, and Ole Miss as top tens teams, I don't care what you read.
LSU will take care of this "problem" shortly.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:43 am to prevatt33
Bama has yet to beat a ranked team...
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:50 am to LSUmajek
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Bama has yet to beat a ranked team...
If that is true, LSU has beaten approx no one and I mean no one.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:00 am to prevatt33
Ole Miss will lose at least one, possibly two more conference games. Bama just needs to worry about winning their games and not laying anymore eggs in the post season.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:07 am to CrimsonBoz
Per the CURRENT AP poll, Gumps have not beat a single ranked team.
LSU has beat Miss ST & Florida.
Your statement is incorrect.
LSU has beat Miss ST & Florida.
Your statement is incorrect.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:00 am to LSUmajek
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Per the CURRENT AP poll, Gumps have not beat a single ranked team.
LSU has beat Miss ST & Florida.
Your statement is incorrect.
Good thing that is not how they view it in the playoff committee. Once again wrong.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:32 am to prevatt33
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Bama will have beaten 3 top ten teams, 2 of those on the road.
The committee is not going to be considering Georgia and Texas A&M to be top 10 teams. AP ranking at the time of the game won't matter to them. Do you think they're going to give LSU credit for a top-25 win because we beat Auburn?
If you win out, you will have one truly quality win, two if you get to the SECCG and beat Florida. If we win out, we will have three (Bama, UF twice) and maybe four if you count Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:50 am to CrimsonBoz
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Good thing that is not how they view it in the playoff committee.
Yes, it will be how they view it. No way is the committee going to think LSU got a quality win over a ranked opponent when we beat Auburn, which may finish with a losing record. Likewise, Oklahoma is not going to be credited with a top 25 win because they beat Tennessee. Poll rankings don't mean anything to the committee. They are totally irrelevant. The committee will decide which teams are good and which teams constitute a quality win. They sure as hell won't depend on an irrelevant poll from two or three months earlier to tell them what a quality win is.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:50 am to prevatt33
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Only one scenario keeps a 1-loss Bama out of the playoffs
While I agree with that your scenario would keep a 1-loss Bama team out of the play-off, I don't think that's the only scenario...
If Ole Miss wins out and is SEC champion, there's a good chance Bama is left out, even with just the one loss. There's a decent chance that the Big 10 champ is undefeated (right now I'm guessing it'll be OSU)...and, if Clemson beats FSU at home, they'll more than likely be the undefeated ACC champs. Both of those get in...so Bama's hopes would fall on either the PAC-12 or Big 12...
In the PAC-12, if Stanford runs the table, they'll get in before a 1-loss non-SEC champ Bama team...and if TCU, Baylor, or Oklahoma win the Big 12 outright that could be a problem. If TCU or Baylor finish undefeated, they're in...if TCU or Oklahoma finish as the outright Big 12 champion with 1 loss, they might get in...
And then there's the, albeit unlikely, Memphis issue. If Memphis runs the table, and Ole Miss is the SEC champion...then you have an undefeated non-Power 5 champ that not only has a victory against the SEC champion on their resume, but also a victory over the team that beat Bama...
And then again, if a couple of the other Power 5 champs have 2 losses, if Ole Miss wins the SEC how much value would they award the conference championship? Bama would have only 1 loss, but would Ole Miss's head-to-head win and conference championship outweigh their 2 losses in comparison with Bama in the committee's eyes? Who knows...
I think Bama's only shot is to win out and Ole Miss lose a game...could be wrong, but don't think it likely they get in otherwise unless total chaos breaks out in the other conferences...
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:51 am to prevatt33
Alabamas losing to Mississippi state
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:58 am to LSU Patrick
Wow, the flock runs to your up vote button. 
Gives us a perspective on the disappointment and degree of melt to be expected.
Gives us a perspective on the disappointment and degree of melt to be expected. 
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