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re: Ole Miss plane crashes in Tuscaloosa. (Updated)

Posted on 8/14/16 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 4:16 pm to
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Update. It is not a University of Mississippi plane as originally speculated. It is registered to Oxford/University plane charters.



So why not change the thread title? Using it as click bait?
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 4:17 pm to
Awful for all involved, especially the children. Prayers sent for sure.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 4:20 pm to
Wow, that is awful.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:09 pm to
Fwiw I understand what you mean.



Also. All three couples had small children. There names have been released....just really don't want to post them in case posters on here are close to them. I wouldn't want to find out this way.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:14 pm to
Damn, sorry to hear about that. Prayers for those kids whose lives just got ripped apart.
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:19 pm to
Sorry for your loss buddy. Terrible news.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:22 pm to
Very tragic :(
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:24 pm to
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hehatedrew


Wow...that's rough. So sorry to hear it involving people you know.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:30 pm to
Piper PA-31 Navajo, which is an old cabin-class piston twin, with good safety record. Reported engine trouble.

A bunch of young lives ruined. Just fricking terrible.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:47 pm to
Most have a glide ratio of less than a mile for every 1000 ft of altitude.
Posted by rpg37
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:13 pm to
This has just been a devastating. One of these families sat next to me in Mass every Sunday and I taught two of the children. The Perry family was so good to be around with. I know the names of the others, but not personally. This is painful. These are the families you wish we had more of. 11 total children. Devastating.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Piper PA-31 Navajo, which is an old cabin-class piston twin, with good safety record. Reported engine trouble.

A bunch of young lives ruined. Just fricking terrible.


Might not be the appropriate time, but I think it needs to be said because unfortunately I have seen it too many times. Never let a family member fly on a private airplane (General Aviation), regardless of how well you know the pilot. The planes and the pilots are maintained and trained at a level not anything near what you see at the Airlines/Military level.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted by JQBama
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:37 pm to
God Bless
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:29 pm to
In most cases that's true. The Navajo has a nice payload and strong safety record, but if an engine goes out and you're low and heavy, it becomes an awful challenge for any level of pilot. Lots of other circumstances can come into play as well. Historically, twin engine pistons are more dangerous in the critical phases of flight. Twice as much hardware to go wrong.

If you need to use general aviation for family air travel, or otherwise, it is best to fly turbine engined aircraft, if possible. Much much safer.
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:29 pm to
So unfortunate. Condolences to their friends and families.

:cry:
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
Most piston twin engine General Aviation airplanes are not capable of climbing single engine. That other engine buys them more time at certain weight, but usually just takes them to the scene of the crash.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Never let a family member fly on a private airplane (General Aviation), regardless of how well you know the pilot. The planes and the pilots are maintained and trained at a level not anything near what you see at the Airlines/Military level.


If this is true of GA airplanes, it's even more true of automobiles. I saw a car wreck five miles from Jackson Wyoming last week. It appeared like two fatalities.

Airlines are certainly safer than GA, and GA is certainly safer than automobiles.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Jobu93
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:41 pm to
I'm sorry to those that this has affected.

Small planes like that give me the heeby jeebies.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 8:09 pm to
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If this is true of GA airplanes, it's even more true of automobiles. I saw a car wreck five miles from Jackson Wyoming last week. It appeared like two fatalities.

Airlines are certainly safer than GA, and GA is certainly safer than automobiles.


Only because of the numbers of people on the road vs those flying. It is a big difference between a two dimensional world vs a three dimensional world. Human factors are the biggest cause of fatalities in Aviation. Mainly because if someone messes up while flying, it has a high probability of being catastrophic. Not necessarily true with driving.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 8:23 pm to
GA fatality rates are lower than they've been since World War II. Averaging something like 1 death per 100,000 hours of flight time. I can understand your point of view for sure, but I'd much rather be in a single engine Cessna with a certified private pilot than I would in a car with a teenager.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 11:53 pm
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