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re: Ole Miss Arena : Didn't realize it broke ground
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:23 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:23 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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How so? Oh and Duke has upgraded Cameron Indoor over the years. I don't know where you got the information that they haven't.
Cameron Indoor is at max capacity, it cannot be upgraded further for capacity without altering the rest of the gym, and because it is a historical gym, it will be there at it's current condition until it falls to the ground. Cameron has never been upgraded for more seats, it was built to hold 9500 standing room in 1940, only renovations they've done for seating were in the 80's and that was removing standing room for student seats.
Duke has the money, and fan draw, to sell out a 15K+ seat arena with EASE, but they'll never do it. Cameron is too historical and literally one of a kind in all of basketball.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:27 pm
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:24 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Same. I'm just saying that calling a school a "Small basketball school" because they have a small arena is pretty ignorant
Just a fact, you've done nothing to disprove it. The Duke play is really, really bad for your argument.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:27 pm to UltimateHog
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Simply not true, it's why the big schools have 15K+ seat arena's and small schools like Auburn or Ole Miss have 9K gyms.
Kentucky, Syracuse, Louisville, etc are the exceptions to the arena rule. And then you have schools that are at 15k plus that have that luxury because they share it with an NBA team.
Schools that have arenas under 15k:
Michigan State
Arizona
West Virginia
Michigan
Florida
Baylor
Stanford
Gonzaga
All pretty good basketball schools (some of which don't fit your "small" agenda in enrollment either) and have been to the NCAA Tournament since Arkansas I might add.
Duke absolutely could have a larger arena but chose to renovate and stay in Cameron Indoor. You're not very bright if you think they couldn't consistently fill a larger arena.
A 9k arena can be a very nice basketball arena.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Kentucky, Syracuse, Louisville, etc are the exceptions to the arena rule. And then you have schools that are at 15k plus that have that luxury because they share it with an NBA team.
Arkansas doesn't share BWA, off the top of my head. There are plenty that don't.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:29 pm to UltimateHog
How many times has you big basketball program been there lately?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:31 pm to UltimateHog
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Arkansas doesn't share BWA, off the top of my head. There are plenty that don't.
Yes, Arkansas built a bigger arena. But a bigger arena doesn't necessarily mean a higher quality basketball program. Arkansas' prowess since the mid-90s says as much.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:32 pm to UltimateHog
Hell, of the current top 25:
Kentucky: 20K
Virginia: 15K
Wisconsin: 17K
Iowa State: 17K
Arizona: 15K
Louisville: 22K
Kansas: 16K
Utah: 15K
Maryland: 18K
North Carolina: 22K
Texas: 17K
WVU: 14K
Indiana: 17K
Iowa: 16K
Bigger basketball schools have bigger arena's, just a fact.
Kentucky: 20K
Virginia: 15K
Wisconsin: 17K
Iowa State: 17K
Arizona: 15K
Louisville: 22K
Kansas: 16K
Utah: 15K
Maryland: 18K
North Carolina: 22K
Texas: 17K
WVU: 14K
Indiana: 17K
Iowa: 16K
Bigger basketball schools have bigger arena's, just a fact.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:34 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Yes, Arkansas built a bigger arena. But a bigger arena doesn't necessarily mean a higher quality basketball program. Arkansas' prowess since the mid-90s says as much.
Arkansas's 90's prowess is why the bigger arena got built, and since then the arena has been in the top 25/top 20 in attendance every year....which is the whole point of a bigger arena.
Smaller schools build smaller gyms, they can't fill a bigger one, nothing wrong with it.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:35 pm to geauxrebs
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How many times has you big basketball program been there lately?
They gotta swing their dicks about something if they're not doing it on the court. Might as well be about their "big" arena while they've watched the following schools make the NCAA Tournament since they last have:
Kentucky
Florida
Tennessee
Alabama
Ole Miss
Georgia
LSU
Mississippi State
Mizzou
Texas A&M
Vandy
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
Thank god for that current 6 seed.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:36 pm to UltimateHog
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Bigger basketball schools have bigger arena's, just a fact.
Some do. I listed a host that don't have bigger than 15k and didn't include Duke (which is just as valid).
It's all about preference. Michigan State, Michigan, Gonzaga, etc could all build bigger venues if they wanted to but chose not to. Has nothing to do with how big a "basketball school" they are.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:37 pm to UltimateHog
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Thank god for that current 6 seed.
Still plenty of season to be played before any seeds are decided. You were ranked in the Top 25 at one point too. We saw how that went.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It's all about preference. Michigan State, Michigan, Gonzaga, etc could all build bigger venues if they wanted to but chose not to. Has nothing to do with how big a "basketball school" they are.
MSU holds 15K, and Michigan is 14K, close enough.
Gonzaga? Highly doubt it, Gonzaga is too small and wouldn't fill a 15K seat arena like OM or Auburn wouldn't, despite being very good yearly.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:41 pm to UltimateHog
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MSU holds 15K, and Michigan is 14K, close enough.
You said 15K+.
And I certainly listed more than the two you mentioned.
Just face it, you're running off at the mouth because you want to shite all over Ole Miss's arena while they do things on the court that Arkansas hasn't done in...well...years.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:43 pm to UltimateHog
Michigan is below 13K now. UF is at 12K.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You said 15K+.
Right, I listed a shite load (you also mentioned the bigger ones host an NBA team and I don't think any single one of the ones listed above host an NBA team) and you can maybe list 2?
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Just face it, you're running off at the mouth because you want to shite all over Ole Miss's arena while they do things on the court that Arkansas hasn't done in...well...years.
Negative, but you want that to be true really bad don't you?
Read the thread next time. Oh and if you want to talk about on the court, you should probably beat Arkansas first then yourself, eh?
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:52 pm to UltimateHog
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The Duke play is really, really bad for your argument.
Because it supports it?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:52 pm to UltimateHog
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Negative, but you want that to be true really bad don't you?
Nah, I just know a poorly constructed troll when I see one.
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you also mentioned the bigger ones host an NBA team and I don't think any single one of the ones listed above host an NBA team) and you can maybe list 2
Villanova at times shares the Wells Fargo Center with the 76ers
Georgetown plays in the Verizon Center (Wizards)
Madison Square Garden regularly hosts St.Johns games
Value City Arena where Ohio State plays isn't shared with an NBA team but an NHL team instead (same difference)
Memphis shares the FedEx Forum with the Grizz
I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:54 pm to UltimateHog
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Oh and if you want to talk about on the court, you should probably beat Arkansas first then yourself, eh?
OH NOZ we lost to Arky, still own the series, and went to the National Championship game.
We also have to consider that some of the larger arenas like Kentucky and Louisville are also not owned by the University but are multi-purpose venues used by the state.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:56 pm to UltimateHog
Bud Walton is a dump. 
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