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re: Oklahoma St. coach Mike Gundy says they would've beaten LSU by three TDs in 2011
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:43 am to 5thTiger
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:43 am to 5thTiger
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Any way about it, Stanford and Okie State should have definitely had the chance to play LSU before Alabama got a second chance. THAT is the biggest farce from the 2011 season.
That seems obvious - esp in light of how some SEC bowl games have gone in the last couple of years. The virtue of a single game NC is defensible with only two major undefeated teams but allowing for a mulligan when other one loss teams were out there would never have happened if it was say South Carolina instead of Alabama or USC/OU instead of Oklahoma State.
Last year's BCS NCG might have been FSU versus Alabama if there weren't a four team playoff.
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:43 am to Swagga
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The only team that could beat 2011 LSU was the one they played that night. Those will go down as 2 of the all time great college football teams even with LSU losing the title game. So much talent on that field it was unreal.
100% this.
Both of those teams are on the all time great list.
The talent alone on both was psychotic.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:45 am to CBandits82
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The only team that could beat 2011 LSU was the one they played that night. Those will go down as 2 of the all time great college football teams even with LSU losing the title game. So much talent on that field it was unreal.
100% this.
Both of those teams are on the all time great list.
The talent alone on both was psychotic.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:46 am to Nissanmaxima
Talk is cheap, and this guy likes to talk
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:46 am to 5thTiger
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5thTiger
Do you honestly believe OK State was on the same level as LSU in 2011?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:47 am to CBandits82
"No way we lose to a team with that much less talent" - random Miami fan before 2002 BCS NCG
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:49 am to CBandits82
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Do you honestly believe OK State was on the same level as LSU in 2011?
I think it would have been a great game to see. A high flying offense vs a great defense/special teams.
The unstoppable force vs the immovable object.
Edit: messed up the rotation in my head, since Okie State played in arizona.
Would have been a true national championship (knowing that Okie State beat Stanford)
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:52 am to 5thTiger
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In arizona, no home field advantage for either team.
the bcs ncg was going to be in NOLA that year - that's how the rotation played out.
The Fiesta would have likely had Stanford and maybe Michigan (who went to the Sugar that year). Alabama would have likely beaten up Va Tech in the Sugar Bowl
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:54 am to Nissanmaxima
First of all, LSU may not have had to throw 10 passes the whole game. We would have had over 40 minutes time of possession easily.
Okla State would not have had enough chances to score on LSU.
Our defense and special teams no doubt would have had a chance to score as well, just like they did against Arky, Georgia in SECCG, Oregon, WVU, Fla, etc.
I don't recall Gundy being this cocky in December 2011 and sticking up for his team's SOS and conference championship. He was almost conceding that they shouldn't be in. It was absolutely sickening.
His attitude may have led to at least 7 BCS coaching and human poll voters actually DROPPING Okie State from 3rd to.....6th or 7th after the Conference Championship games. WTF ???????????
Damn shame......
Okla State would not have had enough chances to score on LSU.
Our defense and special teams no doubt would have had a chance to score as well, just like they did against Arky, Georgia in SECCG, Oregon, WVU, Fla, etc.
I don't recall Gundy being this cocky in December 2011 and sticking up for his team's SOS and conference championship. He was almost conceding that they shouldn't be in. It was absolutely sickening.
His attitude may have led to at least 7 BCS coaching and human poll voters actually DROPPING Okie State from 3rd to.....6th or 7th after the Conference Championship games. WTF ???????????
Damn shame......
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:55 am to 5thTiger
Bama was better than Ok State that year, by a lot.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:59 am to Crimson Legend
quote:No, no they didn't.
LSU's "weak" offense scored over 40 points NINE times that year.
Their offense scored over 40 points three times that year (WKU, UF, & Northwestern).
quote:Or when people look at the final score of a game and assume every point scored was a result of the offense.
It is remarkable how stupid some people can be when they look back on a season through the lens of the last game played.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:00 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:01 am to CBandits82
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The true national championship was played on 1/9/12.
Alabama and LSU were the 2 best teams in the country......by far.
The BCS got it right, the 2 best teams played for a title.
It sucked what happened to my team, but Bama should of been in there because they were the 2nd best team in the country behind LSU.
The BCS was created to put the 2 best teams in the land against each other for the title. It got it right.
LSU was the best team in the country...yes.
Alabama had no more claim on #2 than Oklahoma St or Stanford did at the time. Neither LSU or Alabama played Oklahma St or Stanford that season, so it is impossible to know who was better.
The BCS system did not get it right, because it was impossible to get it right. It is almost the same situation as 2004 with 3 undefeated teams. Which are the 2 best? Biased polls affected the BCS.
The fact that LSU had already beat Bama is reason enough to let another conference show what they could do against LSU. Bama didn't win their conference, or even their division.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:03 am to Nissanmaxima
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:09 am to 5thTiger
2011 LSU is one of the best college football teams I've ever seen. Unfortunately 2011 Bama was the best college fb team I've ever seen. LSU would have crushed OSU. The two best teams played for the championship.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:09 am to 5thTiger
You cannot score if you don't have the ball and LSU would have shoved the ball down Okie Lite's throat and made them like it. The only team that year that could stop LSU's power run game was Alabama, they were built to do it.
But to anyone thinking OSU would pass the ball all over LSU the Tigahs had a hell of a secondary and without a strong running game Brandon Weeden would have gotten mauled by those pass rushing ends.
In the BCS game a strong Bama D just had one of those games where everything clicked and LSU could not run the ball.Offensively for Bama LSU had to respect Richardson running the ball so they couldn't just tee off and come after the QB like they should have been able to vs OSU.
But to anyone thinking OSU would pass the ball all over LSU the Tigahs had a hell of a secondary and without a strong running game Brandon Weeden would have gotten mauled by those pass rushing ends.
In the BCS game a strong Bama D just had one of those games where everything clicked and LSU could not run the ball.Offensively for Bama LSU had to respect Richardson running the ball so they couldn't just tee off and come after the QB like they should have been able to vs OSU.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:41 am to joeyb147
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joeyb147
Oklahoma St. coach Mike Gundy says they would've beaten LSU by three TDs in 2011 by joeyb147
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LSU's "weak" offense scored over 40 points NINE times that year.
No, no they didn't.
Their offense scored over 40 points three times that year (WKU, UF, & Northwestern).
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It is remarkable how stupid some people can be when they look back on a season through the lens of the last game played.
Or when people look at the final score of a game and assume every point scored was a result of the offense.
LSU scored 500 points in the 13 game regular season (including SECCG). 100 of those were scored by special teams and defense, with THE OTHER 400 coming on offense.
That's STILL 30 points per game that the offense scored - against the likes of #3 Oregon, #14 West Va, #3 Arkansas, #2 Alabama, #10 Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee...
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:47 am to MetryTyger
Enh, I could say that winged monkeys will fly out of my backside and attack Nick Saban during the next Arkansas/Alabama game. It still isn't going to happen. Okie State lost to Iowa State and lost late in the year. It is mighty hard to get past that loss.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:47 am to Nissanmaxima
The only team that could beat LSU in 2011 was Alabama.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:52 am to Nissanmaxima
If Alabama could have scored 21 points, that Oklahoma State team definitely would have. Does this hurt LSU's feelings or something?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:59 am to BearBait09
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BearBait09
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But there is no reason to believe OKST could not have won by 3 TDs any more than LSU could have held OKST scoreless and pounded OKST D into the ground.
LSU would have beat Okie State like a pimp, with his ho, on a slow Friday night... That defense was AN ALL TIME GREAT!!!! Fast, furious, hit with BAD INTENTIONS, and had TONS of playmakers!! I give LSU fans shite, for the arse-whipping they took in the BCS championship game, but that 2011 team was DAMN good!!!!! Okie State had not faced a defense or a team like that ALL YEAR... LSU was built PERFECTLy to stop spread and HUNH offenses... That game would have been UGLY!!! Imagine Mike Tyson fighting Manny Pacquiao, in their primes and you have an idea of the destruction that would have ensued...
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