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Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
Okay, after 3 hours how much air time did the other conferences get for their second or lower teams?
ACC went 6 deep or so
SEC went UK and half Mizzou
B12 got Kansas and Baylor women
PAC got ?
B1G got ?
BE got the schools heading to the ACC
That Duke practice will get an hour and a half all to itself on monday for their practice LIVE on ESPNU.
ACC went 6 deep or so
SEC went UK and half Mizzou
B12 got Kansas and Baylor women
PAC got ?
B1G got ?
BE got the schools heading to the ACC
That Duke practice will get an hour and a half all to itself on monday for their practice LIVE on ESPNU.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:13 pm to sms151t
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That's my opinion.
I think they both had some blame but I think the Duke game was already desired by ESPN while the Indiana game was geared to the actual fans of UK and IU. Why in the fook do you play Duke on a weekday at 9pm that far away when you can play IU and both sets of fans can drive in an hour or so.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:17 pm to Cheese Grits
Okay so I lied a little.
It's all about exposure. And playing in the Champions Classic was far too good a deal to turn down.
And it's at the Georgia Dome which is even closer then what Madison Square Garden was (well attended by UK fans BTW).
I don't have a problem with dropping IU after the shite that went on at Assembly Hall. And I'm not talking about losing either.
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I think they both had some blame but I think the Duke game was already desired by ESPN while the Indiana game was geared to the actual fans of UK and IU. Why in the fook do you play Duke on a weekday at 9pm that far away when you can play IU and both sets of fans can drive in an hour or so.
It's all about exposure. And playing in the Champions Classic was far too good a deal to turn down.
And it's at the Georgia Dome which is even closer then what Madison Square Garden was (well attended by UK fans BTW).
I don't have a problem with dropping IU after the shite that went on at Assembly Hall. And I'm not talking about losing either.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:45 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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The Big East has been to hoops what the SEC has been to football of late.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 12:20 am to USMC Gators
I missed that gem. The Big East has won 1 basketball championship during our 6 BCS championships.
In fact the SEC has more NCAA Basketball Championships than the Big East.
In fact the SEC has more NCAA Basketball Championships than the Big East.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 6:21 am to BluegrassBelle
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It's all about exposure. And playing in the Champions Classic was far too good a deal to turn down.
IU vs UK would top exposure as both are top teams. Giving Duke exposure over UK and IU keeps the ACC in the game instead of leaving them behind - Which is a strategy that should be preferred by both UK and IU. In case you missed it there was not an ACC team in the Final Four this past spring and that is a trend I would like to see continue. When UK played Freedom or RCA Dome they got half the tickets. UK playing in Atlanta means Stub Hub and Ticketmaster get the best seats and the fans get bent over by the NCAA sanctioned scalpers.
As for exposure, playing a Saturday game gets the top rating s numbers. Getting the 9pm slot on a Tuesday does not. This is not a hard concept to grasp. If you think tuesday > saturday you are crazy
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And it's at the Georgia Dome which is even closer then what Madison Square Garden
Not sure where Madison Square garden comes in but why let Duke use a game with UK to recruit Atlanta / Georgia area. UK already gets that exposure playing in the SEC so why let an ACC team invade that turf. The smart play is to keep the ACC out of the SEC footprint. As for well attended, that will be an overpriced ticket in a bad time slot and the attendance numbers will be massaged over folks that actually walk through the turnstiles.
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And I'm not talking about losing either.
All the more reason to put it back in Lucas and YUM and put it back on a saturday where UK gets prime time and maximum ratings numbers. Show me where ESPN is beating CBS on a saturday for media numbers. For somebody who claims to be a UK fan you sure do not advance the best long term strategy to keep them ahead of the ACC for NCAA banners.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 6:49 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Gators should a very good team this year, and can, very possibly, make the Final Four.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 7:17 am to DayBowBow
I didn't get a chance to go to MSU's last night but it was there.
Went last year and had lots of fun
Went last year and had lots of fun
Posted on 10/13/12 at 7:32 am to Cheese Grits
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Not sure where Madison Square garden comes in but why let Duke use a game with UK to recruit Atlanta / Georgia area
The first game of the classic was in MSG. We played Kansas last season. For someone who is such a big UK fan I thought you'd know this. It was also well attended by celebs, recruits, and gave an opportunity for exposure in Big East country.
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For somebody who claims to be a UK fan you sure do not advance the best long term strategy to keep them ahead of the ACC for NCAA banners.
Sure it does. It gives UK experience in big venues early in the season, knowing we have very young teams that will need that. It'll pay dividends come March where you really make the money. 2013 will put them in one of the hottest recruiting areas in the country in Chicago as well.
The ACC is going to get their exposure either way. Why are you so scared of the ACC? Good grief. You play them and beat them if you want to diminish their progress.
We tried to play IU in Lucas Oil. They refused adamantly. And you're laughingly naive if you think we're going to play in the Yum center when not playing Louisville. You do realize Louisville hasn't allowed that to happen to this point for a reason right? They have purposely scheduled to block us out of our annual city of Louisville game in the past in that venue. No way they're letting two border teams play there. They'd rather go broke (and they are) then let that happen.
For someone mocking my fandom you sure have some naive notions about things.
This post was edited on 10/13/12 at 7:43 am
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:09 am to BluegrassBelle
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The first game of the classic was in MSG. We played Kansas last season. For someone who is such a big UK fan I thought you'd know this. It was also well attended by celebs, recruits, and gave an opportunity for exposure in Big East country.
Which is why we play the Terps in Barclays this season! I get that part and have no problem with it. Note that playing NYC vs MD is not giving exposure to UNC or Duke nor is it giving exposure to a Big East team. As for Madison Square garden you should remember that it was that venue that got UK tainted by the cheating scandal of the 50's and Rupp's feelings on that particular venue.
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It gives UK experience in big venues early in the season, knowing we have very young teams that will need that.
Lucas is a big venue and it is closer for fans to travel. Considering the NCAA has their headquarters there and the most NCAA Final Fours get played there UK should make it Rupp North. If IU would not play there why not play Duke in Lucas on a saturday for maximum exposure? Instead we have a crappy tuesday game in the second slot when folks have to work on wednesday!
A) UK vs Duke in Lucas on Saturday
B) UK vs Duke in Atlanta for the late game on Tuesday
Tell me again how B is better?
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And you're laughingly naive if you think we're going to play in the Yum center when not playing Louisville. You do realize Louisville hasn't allowed that to happen to this point for a reason right?
And you are a Louisville native and not paying attention to the money trail. YUM has a horrible deal with UL where they get like 88% of revenue so even tho YUM is doing well in bookings - especially non basketball - they are losing money. As a taxpayer funded building either Louisville is going have to give back some of that 88% or they are going to have to let BBN share the building when they want to play there.
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which is cute that your panties are still in a bundle over my comments about our AD and Joker
No, I am pragmatic about the real world of business, politics, and bloated universities feeding at the trough. Look I give you props for your game knowledge but you are the naive one when it comes to the bigger picture of college sports. Instead of trying to shoot down these points because you want to win the swinging dick war try and listen to the points being made and watch your backyard a little closer so you get smarter.
Speaking about panties in a wad, did you boycott BBM last night because Joker is the football coach? Wildcat Mike was there so what kept you away? Tickets were free and even the scalpers outside could get you in for cheap.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:20 am to BluegrassBelle
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The ACC is going to get their exposure either way. Why are you so scared of the ACC? Good grief. You play them and beat them if you want to diminish their progress.
Sorry for the extra post but this was edited after you edited the original.
I am not scarred of the ACC I am just aware of what you need to do when you play the long game of basketball dominance. I have been to Cameron and seen the "sixth man" in Black and White on more than one occasion up close. Duke likes to play where they have the most control so if ESPN wanted UK vs Duke then Cal should have pushed for the game in Lucas on a Saturday.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:23 am to Cheese Grits
ETA: I'm just going to agree to disagree here.
As far as my fandom, since there is such thing as a life outside of UK for me I'll just say I have my reasons for not attending some events. Feel free to keep questioning my fandom though as I've attended many events, Big Blue Madness included, for several years. And frankly you're not worth saying something that will get me banned either.
That's the last I have to say on it because I don't particularly care to continue talking about it with some elitist who thinks someone not living in Lexington and who doesn't attend every event for some very valid reasons can't be a fan.
As far as my fandom, since there is such thing as a life outside of UK for me I'll just say I have my reasons for not attending some events. Feel free to keep questioning my fandom though as I've attended many events, Big Blue Madness included, for several years. And frankly you're not worth saying something that will get me banned either.
That's the last I have to say on it because I don't particularly care to continue talking about it with some elitist who thinks someone not living in Lexington and who doesn't attend every event for some very valid reasons can't be a fan.
This post was edited on 10/13/12 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:41 am to Cheese Grits
I can see how the UK-Duke game was scheduled on a tuesday. These big arenas are homes to pro football teams that have home games on sundays. There are so many events going on in November. Pro football, College football, Pro basketball exhibitions are starting and a lot of non-sports events use these arenas as well. This is why we are seeing big college games on aircraft carriers in November now. The weekdays are far easier to schedule than weekends. Decembers are easier because the college football regular season has ended and more days open up for these type of games. Big college basketball games in November will be mostly on weekdays. It has been this way for several years.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:47 am to BluegrassBelle
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Louisville is desperately hoping the state defaults on the Yum Center so they can purchase it and keep not just us but the NBA out.
In default the bondholders are first in line. Since that is little old ladies with blue hair in the bluegrass that means UK will own YUM before UL. I therefore tend to doubt your observation.
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Playing the late slot on Super Tuesdays has given us plenty of exposure with the ESPN contract so I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it.
Again, which gets better ratings Saturdays or Tuesdays? You keep dodging the answer instead of admitting that it is better to get the saturday dates for your highest exposure. I have been to a whole lot of games and weekend games always have better crowds than weekdays. Look I love Atlanta but playing a late night game on tuesday will not be near as loud and UK centric as playing the same game on saturday. Is it just possible that this negates a UK edge?
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your elitist arse
Ha Ha, that is a joke. I am the one fighting to keep UK games for the masses and not the few at the top. Do not confuse elite with educated as that is how folks in the middle and bottom get screwed. Educate yourself and you can fight with the elite or stay ignorant and let them own you.
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the last evening I spent with my now deceased little brother was at a UK basketball game three years ago
I can empathize with that as it was the same for me and my now deceased sibling. We all mourn in different way and I extend my sympathy for your loss. While it does not negate my sadness I can take their kids from your general area and create new memories in another generation. Not saying this works for all but it has helped me in my period of grief.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 8:55 am to Cheese Grits
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In default the bondholders are first in line. Since that is little old ladies with blue hair in the bluegrass that means UK will own YUM before UL. I therefore tend to doubt your observation.
Section 47, the "Right of Tenant" clause in the lease defaults to UofL if the Arena Authority defaults. UofL has the right of first refusal, before the bondholders. It was written in under the guise that UofL didn't want to be left out in the cold in a worst case scenario.
This is the best layman's explanation I can find on my phone at the moment.
LINK
And thank you for referring to me like I'm uneducated. Because that doesn't reek of elitist bullshite too. And with that I am actually done with the conversation.
This post was edited on 10/13/12 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/13/12 at 10:01 am to BluegrassBelle
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Yeah. Funny how they were all in our bracket, mostly by virtue of upsets that helped them get there (see Baylor and Duke, Kansas and Syracuse).
And Florida getting to the Elite Eight was not in part because of Mizzou being upset?
Js
Anyways I can't wait for bball season after this lackluster football season, hopefully I get tickets the the Arky game and possibly another one.
This post was edited on 10/13/12 at 10:03 am
Posted on 10/13/12 at 10:12 am to Cheese Grits
Cheese Grits, use your head, what else is going on on Saturdays in November? CBS is not going to play a Saturday basketball game in November, Kentucky already gets their season premier the first weekend in December.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 10:19 am to DayBowBow
Bump just to piss off the bitches that don't like basketball on the mainboard.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 10:19 am to Rig
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