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re: NFL.com's Top 10 College Football Teams of the 2000s

Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Nunk Red
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:04 am to
uh, guys, this list is for the 2000s, no 2010s allowed
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30827 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:06 am to
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Against the 2nd best defense to ever play the game.


Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:12 am to
As others have mentioned, the list doesn't go up to 2011.

Also, I find Bama fans who insult 2011 LSU hysterical. Half of the case (The other half being how dominant they were against weaker competition/number of draft choices) for that 2011 Bama team being one of the all time greats was their victory over 2011 LSU, who at the time had arguably the most impressive resume ever.

You guys should be defending 2011 LSU more than LSU fans do.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:27 am to
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Held 8 opponents to a touchdown or less. Shut out 3.

Didn't give up more than 14 points to an SEC school all year.

Allowed 21 points only once.

Largely considered one of the top 5 defenses to ever play the game.

Average margin of victory of 27 points.

Of the 22 starters, 11 went on to become first round draft picks.


...lost at LSU
...didn't win the SEC or even the SECW
...only team to ever get a rematch for the BCSNCG
...required other teams choking at the very end of the season

meh
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17283 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:28 am to
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ULM (5-6)
MSU (3-8)
LSU (9-3)
Citadel (3-7)
Tennessee x 2 (10-3)
LA Tech (6-6)
Arkansas (5-6)
Kentucky (2-9)
Ole Miss (4-7)
UGA (10-2)
Bama (6-6)
VA Tech (10-3)

Added our last opponent, whom you seem to have ignored. So we won four games against teams with 10 wins (in a year with an 11-game regular season). LSU would have been the fifth victory over a 10-win team if Saban hadn't gone brain-dead on the final play of the Cap One Bowl. As it stands, we beat #7, #10, #13 (twice) and #16, four teams whose combined records against all other teams was 39-6 (.867 winning percentage).

Here's Bama's 2011 schedule:
quote:

Kent (5-7)
Penn State (9-4)
North Texas (5-7)
Arkansas (11-2)
Florida (7-6)
Vanderbilt (6-7)
Mississippi (2-10)
Tennessee (5-7)
Louisiana State (13-1)
Mississippi State (7-6)
Georgia Southern
Auburn (8-5)
Louisiana State (13-1)


You played 3 games against 2 ranked teams: #2 LSU and #5 Arky. And you lost one of those. I'd argue that our close win over defending BCS Champion LSU in '04 was far more impressive than your pedestrian blowout of a Penn State squad in Paterno's final year. And we dominated UT and UGa in the regular season.

As long as we're on the subject, here's a couple more schedules to contemplate from outside the decade in question in the OP:

quote:

Vanderbilt (4-7)
Southern Mississippi (7-4)
Arkansas (3-7-1)
Louisiana Tech (5-6)
South Carolina (5-6)
Tulane (2-9)
Tennessee (9-3)
Mississippi (9-3)
Louisiana State (2-9)
Mississippi State (7-5)
Auburn (5-5-1)
Florida (9-4)
Miami (Florida) (11-1)


Is that more impressive looking than the slate AU faced in '04? And there were far more close games as well.

How about this one?

quote:

Georgia Tech (4-6-1)
Baylor (8-4)
Vanderbilt (1-10)
Wichita State (1-10)
Florida (0-10-1)
Tennessee (7-5)
Virginia Tech (5-6)
Mississippi State (3-8)
Louisiana State (7-5)
Miami (Florida) (5-6)
Auburn (8-3)
Arkansas (10-2)


Only three teams finished in the AP Top 20 that year, and one of those games came down to the wire. And I seriously doubt there's another team in college football history that's EVER faced three 10-loss teams in a single season (and on consecutive weeks, no less).

I don't think it would be fair to conclude that Bama's last two consensus NC teams prior to Saban were not great, simply because they played ridiculously easy regular season schedules. Neither should '04 AU be similarly dismissed for a perceived weakness in their regular season opposition.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:32 pm to
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FearlessFreep


This is actually a very solid post. Thanks for taking the time to post that.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:15 pm to
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...lost at LSU
...didn't win the SEC or even the SECW
...only team to ever get a rematch for the BCSNCG
...required other teams choking at the very end of the season

meh

You forgot...undefeated in regulation.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12866 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:19 pm to
2001 Miami was best CFB team ever? Nadda. 1995 Nebraska would've steamrolled em.

And like most bama fans have said, 2011 Bama team was better than 2009.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:31 pm to
01 Miami is overrated because of all their eventual draft picks.
Posted by The Silverback
Neptune
Member since May 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:53 pm to
Any list with 01 Miami #1 loses all credibility IMO

Too many 01 Miami blowhards
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 1:54 pm
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