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Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:16 pm to CockyTime
It doesn't matter how good that team is in February or Jan. It matters what the team is at seasons end.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:17 pm to Farmer1906
Yep. Nobody to blame but ourselves for losing the last 4 out of 5
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:22 pm to CidCock
No use in bitching about it. What's done is done.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:52 pm to CidCock
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ETA: The 3rd best team in the SEC should get into the field of 68! its a power 5, freaking conference.
The SEC is atrocious this year. The A10 was much better. Honestly, if you guys don't lose to Mizzou, I think you would be in.
Analysts docked you for almost losing to us at home and losing to us at our place.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:08 pm to RoyalAir
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But yet, Tulsa lost, convincingly, to South Carolina.
And lost twice to Memphis, who USC also beat.
Objectively, USC was a better basketball team than Tulsa.
No one cares about head to heads.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:09 pm to CidCock
Who can I laugh at? Seriously? I thought you were in over Vandy.
We are putrid.
Win the NIT. It's a great opportunity to play in MSG.
We are putrid.
Win the NIT. It's a great opportunity to play in MSG.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:12 pm to Kamikaze25
This isn't bitching. I don't have any skin in the game. I don't think Carolina deserves to get in. But it is a legitimate debate. Despite whatever the one pig guy is trolling about there is a million different criteria and Tulsa just fails on so many levels.
They don't belong in this tournament. Carolina would have a legitimate debate against Tulsa. Sorry buddy but some random too 50 computer rating isn't the end all be all. Why don't you pick arbitrary numbers like top 25 or 30. Or 60. Or 150 or 167 or 205. It's arbitrary
Plus who says top 50 teams are good. Look at the top 50 teams some aren't that good
Carolina embarrasses Tulsa in common opponents and if they are that close. That criteria should matter.
But it doesn't matter. A bunch of teams belong in the tourney more than Tulsa and Carolina. This should be an nit debate
They don't belong in this tournament. Carolina would have a legitimate debate against Tulsa. Sorry buddy but some random too 50 computer rating isn't the end all be all. Why don't you pick arbitrary numbers like top 25 or 30. Or 60. Or 150 or 167 or 205. It's arbitrary
Plus who says top 50 teams are good. Look at the top 50 teams some aren't that good
Carolina embarrasses Tulsa in common opponents and if they are that close. That criteria should matter.
But it doesn't matter. A bunch of teams belong in the tourney more than Tulsa and Carolina. This should be an nit debate
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:14 pm to Cockeee Don
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quote: There is nothing to defend. Tulsa is 4-5 against top 50 Carolina is 1-1 Pretty cut and dry. 4-5 is a winning percentage of .44, 1-1 is .500. Which is better? Whatever.
Of all of the dumb posts in this thread, this one takes The cake.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:18 pm to Hawgeye
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aTm beat Arkansas who lost to SCar. Do you think that mattered? No.
Well we beat aTm too, might want to use a different example.
Face it.
Tulsa had a shitty schedule until UConn rose and our conference collapsed, no fault of our own.
Vandy has a worse record against the top 60 RPI than we did and finished a rung below in conference.
Syracuse collapsed as badly as we did down the stretch.
We beat 2 / 3 of those teams head to head.
There is no reason all 3 of those teams should be ahead of js
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:19 pm to djsdawg
Seriously someone explain Wichita St. They make Tulsa's resume look like Kansas.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:21 pm to MeatPants
On What relevent levels does Tulsa fail on? Common opponents and head to head are irrelevant. Top 50 is arbitrary but it's essentially top 20% and it apparently matters a ton.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:21 pm to CidCock
Ole Miss has played the same dangerous game in the past, going incredibly soft in the OOC schedule. And we can tell you it can bite you in the arse as winning more than 20 games will not always be enough. Sorry, man.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:21 pm to CockyTime
Wichita state got a break because their all American guard was hurt and they lost some games. Like it or not they used that as a factor
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:21 pm to CockyTime
Name recognition in CBB.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:22 pm to theGarnetWay
Cuse also beat A&M, UConn, Duke, & Notre Dame. Their 9-9 record in the ACC is as impressive if not more than SC's 11-7 record in the SEC.
It was a full on combo of SC collapsed late, played in a weak conference, played a soft OOC schedule, and only won 1 top 50 win all year.
It was a full on combo of SC collapsed late, played in a weak conference, played a soft OOC schedule, and only won 1 top 50 win all year.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:24 pm to MeatPants
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Wichita state got a break because their all American guard was hurt and they lost some games. Like it or not they used that as a factor
I get that but its a joke. They haven't beaten anyone with him either and didn't even make their conference tourney final. I see no reason they should have gotten in besides name recognition...they are a shell of what they have been in the past 2 years.
Don't even get me started on Cuse taking into account Boeheim's absence for freakin' cheating. The tournament committee chairman is a spineless POS.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:26 pm to djsdawg
Who says it irrelevant. Djdawg? Give ,e the rules then
You don't know. All I know is there a million different criteria. Road games, neutral court, ken Pom, rpi, schedule strength, etc. it's not just top 50.
They used top 50. All I'm saying is cadolina does have a legit debate. And there have been reasonable reasons stated by many
You don't know. All I know is there a million different criteria. Road games, neutral court, ken Pom, rpi, schedule strength, etc. it's not just top 50.
They used top 50. All I'm saying is cadolina does have a legit debate. And there have been reasonable reasons stated by many
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:29 pm to MeatPants
I know The dance committee has never valued such things when viewing bubbles. Uga and Bama learned that lesson in 2011 when bama beat Uga twice in the final week.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:33 pm to MeatPants
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But it is a legitimate debate. Despite whatever the one pig guy is trolling about there is a million different criteria
Team A:
RPI: 57
Record: 23-8
OOC SOS: 300
Overall SOS: 159
vs. Top 50: 1-1
vs. 50-100: 7-4
Bad Losses: 222. Missouri, 152. Miss State, 146. Tennessee
Team B:
RPI: 61
Record: 20-11
OOC SOS: 106
Overall SOS: 62
vs. Top 50: 4-5
vs. 50-100: 4-3
Bad Losses: 149. Oral Roberts, 138. Memphis x2
None of Team B's losses were as bad as Team A.
Team B had no losses to 150+ teams
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