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Most Underachieving Sports Program in the SEC?

Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:29 am
Posted by MattFlynnRox
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:29 am
Who pisses away the most resources, talent, funds, etc?

My vote goes to Georgia.
Posted by BlueIndian420
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:31 am to
Defiently Georgia imo
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:36 am to
I was gonna say Arkansas football, but they're basically supposed to be a perennial 4-4 SEC program. So I'll go with Georgia. They should not have been owned so badly by Florida in the last 20 years, and they should have squeezed out a national title or two in the past 28 years.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:38 am to
georgia
Posted by MattFlynnRox
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:38 am to
quote:

I was gonna say Arkansas football, but they're basically supposed to be a perennial 4-4 SEC program. So I'll go with Georgia. They should not have been owned so badly by Florida in the last 20 years, and they should have squeezed out a national title or two in the past 28 years.


Good point, but remember it's not exclusive to just football. Talking about overall sports program.

I think Arkansas might be a close second. Afterall , they celebrate having the finest facilities in the world and have nothing to show for it outside of track.
Posted by dutchtowntiger100
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:38 am to
I would have to say Florida, it wasn't until Spurrier got there that they began to accumulate hardware on the gridiron.

Pre Spurrier - Florida was not dominant in college football and with all the talent in that state I can't begin to understand why.

South Carolina mystifies me as well. I guess sharing state resources with Clemson makes it difficult but even with Hall of Fame coaches they just can't get it done on the big stage in all three major sports.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:40 am to
Tennessee
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:40 am to
The correct answer is Florida. People get so tied down to recent history, when we're talking about HISTORY here. Like...since 1933 I'm assuming since SEC play started. Florida didn't win a thing until spurrier got there. And let's not forget UGA football is a top 12 or so program of all time. Look at the big picture please people instead of just looking for an excuse to rag on something. With the hotbed of talent florida is, and considering FSU was a girl's college until the 70s I think, Florida should've been dominating long before they actually started to.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 11:42 am
Posted by BDGolemiss
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:42 am to
Definitely Arkansas. They have incredible facilities, a fanbase that loves the Hogs (being the only real school in your state helps a lot) and tons of alumni support.


EDIT: sorry, just saw "in the SEC" at the end. Nevermind.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 11:43 am
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:43 am to
Their's much more talent right in Georgia's backyard than their is in Arkansas or Tennessee. Georgia's underachieving in basketball puts them over the top.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:44 am to
Arkansas has one of the smallest enrollments in the SEC, as well as having the smallest state population among SEC school, and consequently have very little in-state talent. Those aren't exactly things associated with "underachieving", as in the case of large schools, from populated areas, like Georgia.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 11:46 am
Posted by Dawgonit
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:49 am to
Fu owns the SEC since 1950.
Posted by gatorsimz
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:50 am to
if you're saying Florida read the question over. i don't see "in SEC history" anywhere in the title. if our 3 football NCs in the last 15 years and multiple SEC championships is underachieving well then i'd like to know what UGA is considered right now
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Most Underachieving Sports Program in the SEC?


That's the OP. There was no time frame given, so how are we supposed to know what he means? I just assumed he meant in SEC history since there was no time allotment given.
Posted by BDGolemiss
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:52 am to
True, but there's a lot of other factors. For instance, the proximity of the state of Arkansas to Texas. More Texas players (who are the best) will go to Arkansas over UGA.

You can argue that more Florida players will go to UGA, which is true, but Texas has 7 million more people in the state than Florida does.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:52 am to
quote:

The correct answer is Florida. People get so tied down to recent history, when we're talking about HISTORY here. Like...since 1933 I'm assuming since SEC play started. Florida didn't win a thing until spurrier got there. And let's not forget UGA football is a top 12 or so program of all time. Look at the big picture please people instead of just looking for an excuse to rag on something. With the hotbed of talent florida is, and considering FSU was a girl's college until the 70s I think, Florida should've been dominating long before they actually started to.


You're really reaching with that one. The state of Florida didn't have substantial growth in population until several years after World War II. That didn't catch up to the rest of the SEC until the late 1970s. They were pretty good throughout the 80s, but it still takes that "certain coach" to finally put a program on the map.

And FWIW, Florida State became a state school in the 1950s. Miami didn't have football until the 60s.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:56 am to
quote:

True, but there's a lot of other factors. For instance, the proximity of the state of Arkansas to Texas. More Texas players (who are the best) will go to Arkansas over UGA.

You can argue that more Florida players will go to UGA, which is true, but Texas has 7 million more people in the state than Florida does.


Only two programs come to mind, with the same limitations as Arkansas, that have achieved a lot in the history of college football; Oklahoma and Nebraska.
Posted by BDGolemiss
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:58 am to
That's a good point, how the hell did Nebraska used to be so good? There's only 2.5 million people in the entire state, and the states surrounding NE are even smaller. You can attribute some of their success to being one of the first teams to emphasize strength training/weight lifting but obviously that doesn't account for all of it. I have no idea.
Posted by gatorsimz
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 11:58 am to
quote:

There was no time frame given, so how are we supposed to know what he means?


well the OP was talking about who pisses away whatever so I figured he meant present tense what's going on in the SEC right now.

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I figured he meant present tense what's going on in the SEC right now.


Makes sense. Although since he said "Sports Program" I still wouldn't say UGA, since we routinely finish 2nd in the conference in the all-sports trophy. Our football team has been down, but has still been pretty good. Men's basketball has recently been atrocious. Women's basketball is in the top half of the conference. Gymnastics, men's golf, men's tennis, and equestrian are the best. Baseball under Perno has been in the top 2 or 3 of the conference. If looking at all sports I still think you could find a lot of programs who should be doing more that aren't.
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