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re: More NCAA trouble for Ole Miss?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:47 am to Whereisomaha
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:47 am to Whereisomaha
quote:So the NCAA has been investigating for 3 years? And while still under investigation, the Tunsil issue pops up? Then y'all have the women's bb investigation too?
Who says message boards cant be informative. Anyways, the NCAA has investigated this as I said. We fired Saunders and put the NCAA on him. I am not worried because there would be smoke on our end after the NCAA investigated it for the past 3 years. I know it is not a law, but the fact that we have a completely different staff and AD means that the acts at least could appear they did not continue. Be honest, do yall really think we are in trouble here or are you just trolling.
Has the NCAA set up a field office in Oxford?
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:49 am to RT1941
They set up shop because of the 2013 class, thats how they found the woman's basketball and Saunders stuff. They have been here because of Tunsil, Nkemdiche, and crew.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:55 am to Whereisomaha
and not shite will happen to us ultimately leading to a lot of pissy-assed Tamu and LSU fans.
Eat shite. Keep wasting your time thinking that the NCAA is gonna shut us down. We lawyer'd our way out of the Tunsil shite and we'll lawyer the frick out of anything else thrown our way. 2013 class bought and paid for? psshhhttt....here's some women's basketball schollies now go play in traffic NCAA.
Eat shite. Keep wasting your time thinking that the NCAA is gonna shut us down. We lawyer'd our way out of the Tunsil shite and we'll lawyer the frick out of anything else thrown our way. 2013 class bought and paid for? psshhhttt....here's some women's basketball schollies now go play in traffic NCAA.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:58 am to pankReb
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We lawyer'd our way out of the Tunsil shite
yeah stand up job getting him a 7 game suspension
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:58 am to Wanderin Reb
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All that shite happened under a different HC and a different AD. There's no reason they would penalize the current administration.
Oh, If it were really just this simple. uh-uh. We got HAMMERED in early 2002 for transgressions in 98 and 99. Almost 2 full years after DuBose and staff had been gone.
The institution gets punished, not the coach. Remember who was coaching SC when they got hammered? Not Pete Carroll who had committed the violations but Kiffin instead. Coach Fran left for A&M after the penalties were announced and I didn't blame him.
As far as penalties go they used to take people off TV and this had no effect. Now its vacate wins (even a more useless penalty than banning TV) AND the biggest one schollie reductions. The schollie reductions are the killer and I'm not talking about 4 or 5. When they take 27-30 like they did us. You can't find anybody to sign because kids know you arent gonna be strong enough to go bowling, and great players dont want to play for losers. Every game is a fight no matter who you play.
There are stages of probation
Investigation-Scares off kids because you dont know what the penalties will be. Like Cowherd said, your penalties are waiting to see what the penalties are.
Actual probation- schollie reduction not only limits what you can sign but also scares off kids who know you won't be very good during this time.
Recovery-Once probation is over it takes about 5 years to get back to full roster that also has EXPERIENCE. Big key
I'll give you this timeline on Bama since most of you weren't alive during early 2000's or didnt care enough to know what was going on.
2000-Investigation started
2002-Penalties announced
2005-First season we could actually sign 25 again
2008-Last season we played without a full 85 with experience
Know what our record was between 2000 and 2007?
53-46 with losses in Indy and Music city bowls to the likes of Minnesota, Okie state,
Know what it has been since we got back to full strength? 2009-present?
78-10 with 3 national championships
You better hope you are clean but if not you are in for some loooong seasons. If it affected Bama that much whats it gonna do to Ole Miss?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:58 am to RT1941
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Has the NCAA set up a field office in Oxford?
You don't need a field office and an investigation to know that the 2013 class was dirty.
The rest of the dirty programs in the SEC are shaking their heads at how dirty that class was. It was a slap in the face to the dirty programs that operate with a sense of dignity and class.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:59 am to lsufball19
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USC was put on probation in 2010 for conduct that happened in 2004 under a different staff and different administration
For impermissible benefits....
But we're not discussing an instance of a player getting impermissible benefits. We're discussing a player possibly not being eligible because of alleged academic fraud prior to enrollment.
I'm hoping that you can see the difference in those two instances. However....the fact that this had to be pointed out to you is slightly disappointing.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:59 am to Pecker
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You don't need a field office and an investigation to know that the 2013 class was dirty.
The rest of the dirty programs in the SEC are shaking their heads at how dirty that class was. It was a slap in the face to the dirty programs that operate with a sense of dignity and class.
And not a fricking thing you can do about it.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:03 am to pankReb
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And not a fricking thing you can do about it.
I can laugh when scholly's and bowl games get cut.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:04 am to Pecker
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I can laugh when scholly's and bowl games get cut.
I'm sure you could....but that doesn't mean you ever will be able to.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:06 am to pankReb
Y'all ar such pieces of shite. Everyone knows you cheat and y'all brag about it until getting caught then you back pedal and come up with these shitty excuses that paints you into a corner.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:06 am to Whereisomaha
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They set up shop because of the 2013 class, thats how they found the woman's basketball and Saunders stuff.
When are they making a ruling on the women's basketball sanctions? Seems like it is going to be pretty serious.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:07 am to olddawg26
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Y'all ar such pieces of shite. Everyone knows you cheat and y'all brag about it until getting caught then you back pedal and come up with these shitty excuses that paints you into a corner.
^^^^^ Mad as frick. Tunsilitis flare up again?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:07 am to Hugh McElroy
It's about to freeze in Oxford.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:08 am to pankReb
vindication cured it.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:08 am to pankReb
You're getting a little excited. Why don't you take a moment to quietly reflect on your past few years of relevance. Just appreciate it for what it was.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:09 am to pankReb
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But we're not discussing an instance of a player getting impermissible benefits. We're discussing a player possibly not being eligible because of alleged academic fraud prior to enrollment.
i'll capitalize and bold it since it went over your head the first time. i'm hoping you notice this time....the fact this had to be pointed out to you, twice, is slightly disappointing
“NCAA 32.6.3 Statute of Limitations: Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is forwarded to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation:
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association’s fundamental recruiting, extra-benefit, ACADEMIC OR ETHICAL-CONDUCT REGULATIONS or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning the matter.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:10 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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women's basketball sanctions
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serious
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:11 am to pankReb
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And not a fricking thing you can do about it.
i don't think anyone is alleging they, themselves, can do anything about a program does. the ncaa can do whatever they want, however. have fun playing with fire
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:11 am to pankReb
To get busted, as it appears OM is, for academic fraud is some serious stuff.
Academic types who are deciding the penalties don't take kindly to that.
Academic types who are deciding the penalties don't take kindly to that.
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