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re: Mizzou vs Ole Miss Predictions?

Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by trader_tiger83
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:21 pm to
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how many weeks has he been out


He's been out for 5 weeks... My guess is that he's been throwing for about 2 weeks or so.

Having Mauk as a viable backup has alleviated a lot of Franklingate for Mizzou fans. I'm much more calm than normal.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:30 pm to
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I think he means the d-line is aggressive; we run lots of stunts and such, often leaving holes up front. it's on of the reasons we get so many sacks. we're clearly trying to play up the quickness on our defensive line, and it works a lot of the time.



Thank you.



Running right at an aggressive D-line, if you're successful, will eventually negate their aggressiveness. It makes it easier for linemen to get to the second level and puts a lot of pressure on the linebackers to clean up plays. It CAN lead eventually to gashing runs or open up the intermediate passing game due to the linebackers having such responsibility.

That takes nothing away from how good they are. There hasn't been one O-line that has been able to do it this year and yalls linebackers have been really good.
Posted by Majin Buu
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:32 pm to
Missouri by 10.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:38 pm to
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I think the best way to attack Mizzou's D is to run right at them



This observation is so fricking stupid and idiotic.. I mean.. God damn... You son of a bitch... This analysis is so bad that it is Matt Millenesque... You have to kill yourself.. You just have to.. Right now.


ETA: The way to attack Mizzou is with RB screens and draws... Screens moreso than the draws.. Their LBs have struggled tackling out in space this season... So pretty much the polar fricking opposite of what you said would be the best way to attack Mizzou's D.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:45 pm to
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I predict a 1TD win by Mizzou... something like 33-26 or 37-30.

Think it will be very close, very intense, and never comfortable for either fanbase the whole game.

Should be a lot of fun to watch as a bystander without a rooting interest.


Sounds like most of our games this season. :D
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:48 pm to
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if he hasnt been able to lift his arm for the majority of that time his timing and confidence are going to be pretty off. any mizzou fans know anything about how his recovery went? I know he obviously wouldnt be playing if the coaches didnt think he gave them the best shot to win, but it just seems hard to believe he could really be 100%.


He was available to play as early as the UT game if needed, so I'm assuming his rehab went well and he's been able to not only raise his arm but actually throw for longer than that. I still worry about his timing because no amount of throwing in practice truly simulates game situations.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:51 pm to
thanks for the reply, we've heard so many different things i just wanted to get an idea about his progress.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:52 pm to
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ETA: The way to attack Mizzou is with RB screens and draws... Screens moreso than the draws.. Their LBs have struggled tackling out in space this season... So pretty much the polar fricking opposite of what you said would be the best way to attack Mizzou's D.


At the beginning of the year I thought we'd be soft up the middle, but they've proven me wrong. I agree, the best way is to use our aggression against us. That's screens to the RB like you suggested. I also wouldn't be surprised to see y'all run a trick play or 2. We tend to lose containment with the aggressiveness and some sort of misdirection.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 5:55 pm to
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I also wouldn't be surprised to see y'all run a trick play or 2.

Please sweet baby Jesus, don't let Treadwell throw a pass.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:00 pm to
It worked in the UK game if I remember correctly. I mean UK doing that against Mizzou.
Posted by panzerfahre
Kirksville, Mo
Member since Oct 2013
1472 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:00 pm to
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Pretty sure we invented it so suck my dick



Spit it out son, it ain't yours.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:02 pm to
It has not worked well for us AT ALL.
Posted by Daviskenn
Nashville
Member since Oct 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:35 pm to
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Please sweet baby Jesus, don't let Treadwell throw a pass.



That's BOUND to work by now...
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
Member since Dec 2012
2529 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:55 pm to
Mizzou 27. Ole miss 24
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6181 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:58 pm to
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This observation is so fricking stupid and idiotic.. I mean.. God damn... You son of a bitch... This analysis is so bad that it is Matt Millenesque... You have to kill yourself.. You just have to.. Right now.




So you disagree then?


quote:

ETA: The way to attack Mizzou is with RB screens and draws... Screens moreso than the draws.. Their LBs have struggled tackling out in space this season... So pretty much the polar fricking opposite of what you said would be the best way to attack Mizzou's D.




You don't make a living on screens and draws. Sure, they are effective until the defense starts to expect them.

If you have a quarterback who can throw over the top you will soften them up in the middle. Balance is the best way to attack an aggressive D. The pro-style offense is the most effective way to achieve that balance.


Run at them and they won't be able to rush up the field and slant as hard as they have all year, they will have to maintain the LOS, thus nullifying their very aggressive pass rush. Throw short to intermediate PA passes to make their LB's pay for having to clean up the running game and leaning forward.

Mizzou hasn't played a balanced offense all year until perhaps when Conner Shaw came in in the second half.



Oh, and go frick yourself you hypersensitive little bitch.

Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:09 pm to
I think their aggressive D will play into our strengths.

We live on quick, short passes to the sidelines. It's been Freeze's bread and butter since he got here. If we can establish a straightforward run good enough to take advantage of PA, we'll be ok.

I think we'll be ok running up the middle. Mathers is a hard-nosed runner between the tackles and so is Walton (despite his size).

Brunetti at QB will help a lot, too, I think. He WILL hurt you up the middle and now he's really come on as a passing threat.

Also, don't you think an aggressive d-line would play right into the strengths of a read-option attack? That seems exactly what it's built to hurt. Where Bama got us is their disciplined DEs and DTs not biting on the option and their LB's were really good at scraping down and covering whoever got the ball. They had CJ Mosley, though.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:11 pm to
I mean did you not see the other thread
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6181 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:21 pm to
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Brunetti at QB will help a lot, too, I think. He WILL hurt you up the middle and now he's really come on as a passing threat.


I agree. I think Brunetti will be a key factor in the game.

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Also, don't you think an aggressive d-line would play right into the strengths of a read-option attack?


Yes. I think the read option game is exactly what Ole Miss needs to do to keep that D-line at bay. I agree. But you can certainly still run right at a defense with a read-option.

I know Ole Miss tries to run it up the middle and does have success doing it, I just think they've lacked physicality doing it. It seems like they make their living more on the outside.

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:25 pm to
If we run Mathers and Walton like we can up the middle it'll be a good game. One things for certain our RBs match up against their mediocre LBs
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:25 pm to
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I know Ole Miss tries to run it up the middle and does have success doing it, I just think they've lacked physicality doing it. It seems like they make their living more on the outside.


It depends on what back we have in.

Jeff Scott - he's not really effective up the middle. I don't know why. It's not size. It's something in his head because...

Jaylen Walton - Is the same size as Jeff and he's pretty effective up the middle. He reminds me of Dexter in that regard. He's small, but shifty and just physical enough to pound it out between the tackles.

I'Tavius Mathers - He's not a BIG back, but he's the biggest we have at about 198 lbs. He runs tough and physical, though.

Mark Dodson, Jr - He's really come on in the last couple weeks. I believe he'll see some action and he's proven to be very physical between the tackles.
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