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re: Mizzou vs Ole Miss Predictions?

Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by beHop
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:12 pm to
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100% back.


Pretty bold statement considering no one outside of the coaches and team have seen him take a snap.


And NO ONE has seen him take a meaningful game snap yet.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:12 pm to
More than going to a top 10 UGA?
Posted by Mohican
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:16 pm to
Posted in the other thread that I think the best way to attack Mizzou's D is to run right at them. Ole Miss doesn't do that. They try to get the perimeter.

Mizzou is a legit fricking football team. Their defense is extremely impressive and sneaky good. They continue to roll and get a tough win in Oxford.

I do think Ole Miss' D will give them a little trouble though especially early. I'm thinking a fairly low scoring game (relatively speaking considering the offenses).
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:18 pm to
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And NO ONE has seen him take a meaningful game snap yet.


Took a few snaps in the UK game. This is the guy's 3rd year in the Offense as a starter. It's not like he's a 1st year starter.
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:18 pm to
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More than going to a top 10 UGA?


Yes.

That team was beat to death, yall jumped on them early and the place damn near emptied. UGA fans were headed to the bars on a pretty saturday cussin Richt up and down. They made a run at tying it up, which isnt surprising considering they currently have their all-time leading passer.


Your team will be in a much tougher atmosphere on 11/23 and there's quite a bit more pressure now as opposed to sneaking up on a battered UGA team.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Posted in the other thread that I think the best way to attack Mizzou's D is to run right at them. Ole Miss doesn't do that. They try to get the perimeter.


That is the worst way to attack Mizzou's D. That is the thing we defend the best.
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:23 pm to
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Posted in the other thread that I think the best way to attack Mizzou's D is to run right at them. Ole Miss doesn't do that. They try to get the perimeter.



Honestly, having watched this team all year, we can and will do both. It'll be up to the OL obviously but we absolutely have a north-south running game to compliment our lateral looks.


Furthermore, I could say the same about our D and their O. They seem to run alot of lateral passes and sweeps, which feeds right into our fast, attacking defense. The matchup that worries me is play-action deep balls with our shorter DBs on an island with those power forwards of theirs
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:25 pm
Posted by beHop
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:30 pm to
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NO ONE has seen him take a meaningful game snap yet.



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Took a few snaps in the UK game.



Yeah, no...

I'm talking about taking a hit.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:33 pm to
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I'm thinking a fairly low scoring game (relatively speaking considering the offenses)

I feel the same way. I hope it's due to Franklin being rusty and our offense controlling the clock.

I think Hugh gets a big win Saturday night.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:37 pm to
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Honestly, having watched this team all year, we can and will do both. It'll be up to the OL obviously but we absolutely have a north-south running game to compliment our lateral looks.


Furthermore, I could say the same about our D and their O. They seem to run alot of lateral passes and sweeps, which feeds right into our fast, attacking defense. The matchup that worries me is play-action deep balls with our shorter DBs on an island with those power forwards of theirs


Dumb idea. If you run out of the spread, you'll have success. If you try to line up and run north/south, you'll get destroyed at the LoS. Mizzou rush D is possibly the best in the country vs power run game. We struggle a fair amount against the spread.

Just go rewatch the UGA game for great examples. I still remember MU's MLB Wilson utterly destroying UGA's manchild FB on a running play. But when UGA ran out of spread formations and more toward the tackles/edges, they had success.

This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:38 pm to
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That is the worst way to attack Mizzou's D. That is the thing we defend the best.



Yall have defended it well because you haven't faced a real balanced offense. When I watch Mizzou's front seven I see them committing hard. That's very effective against one-dimensional offenses.

The reason Mizzou has been so effective defensively is because they have such an aggressive style of play. If you don't have a quarterback good enough to take advantage of that with PA passing then of course Mizzou can get away with it. As soon as a qb can counter that aggressiveness over the top and loosen up that front seven I think Mizzou's rush defense would be exposed a bit.

But getting to the perimeter against an aggressively committing, undersized but fast defense would not be my strategy. Too many opportunities for negative plays and turnovers.

I think Mizzou matches up well with Ole Miss because of that. Against a team like Bama or LSU I don't think Mizzou would match up well at all on defense.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:39 pm to
Score-fest.

38-37
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:43 pm to
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Yall have defended it well because you haven't faced a real balanced offense. When I watch Mizzou's front seven I see them committing hard. That's very effective against one-dimensional offenses.

The reason Mizzou has been so effective defensively is because they have such an aggressive style of play. If you don't have a quarterback good enough to take advantage of that with PA passing then of course Mizzou can get away with it. As soon as a qb can counter that aggressiveness over the top and loosen up that front seven I think Mizzou's rush defense would be exposed a bit.


I am beginning to think you have watched very little of Mizzou. We have a VERY conservative defense. We don't blitz much and keep 2 safeties deep 70%+ of the time. We let teams dink and dunk down the field if they want to.

That is the #1 complaint from Mizzou fans is the lack of aggressiveness from the defensive scheme. Play soft, hope for mistakes, tighten up when they get into the redzone.

And our DTs average about 310 lbs. They are listed at 305, but they are well over that. We are not undersized.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:43 pm to
Mizzou 40, Ole Miss 30
Posted by tigooner
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:45 pm to
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I am beginning to think you have watched very little of Mizzou. We have a VERY conservative defense. We don't blitz much and keep 2 safeties deep 70%+ of the time. We let teams dink and dunk down the field if they want to.

That is the #1 complaint from Mizzou fans is the lack of aggressiveness from the defensive scheme. Play soft, hope for mistakes, tighten up when they get into the redzone.


I think he means the d-line is aggressive; we run lots of stunts and such, often leaving holes up front. it's on of the reasons we get so many sacks. we're clearly trying to play up the quickness on our defensive line, and it works a lot of the time.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18123 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:48 pm to
The D-line is aggressive in passing situations. He is saying we can only defend the power run when we keep 8 guys in the box near the LoS and overpower the offense with numbers and quickness. And that is just wrong.
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:50 pm to
Mizzou wins and no way ole miss scores the most points by any team against us this year

MU- 38
Ole miss- 28
Posted by RonBurgundySliver
SW MO
Member since Oct 2013
615 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:56 pm to
Close game. Mizzou escapes Oxford with a 31-27 victory. I think it would be a mild upset if Ole Miss wins.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:57 pm to
Mizzou by a field goal, because the world is funny that way.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:57 pm to
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If you run out of the spread



Child, please.

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If you try to line up and run north/south


We will... Out of the spread.
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