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re: Mizzou fans would you take Mike Anderson back if you could?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:43 am to STLhog
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:43 am to STLhog
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So kinda like Norm Stewart?
Cmon man, I don't think he's jesus but he was one game away with Mizzou and two games with UAB. Who knows what happens when the ball bounces differently....
I recognize both Norm Stewart and Mike Anderson as good coaches, not great or elite ones though. Their differing styles won games, but never pushed over the edge. Norm's teams always played hard on defense, crashed the glass, but seemingly never had that guard/wing player that could take over a game with a mismatch. Anderson's Mizzou teams usually struggled against elite big men with the smarts to slow the tempo of the game. UConn in the Elite Eight in 2009 comes to mind. Hasheem Thabeet destroyed us, even though we played excellent, there was no way we were going to win that game.
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:43 am to TeLeFaWx
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Programs like Mizzou and Arkansas should just be happy with making the tournament.
That single Elite 8 banner looks dope next to all your woman's banners.
Get back to me when ya'll make a final four...
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:46 am to TeLeFaWx
Just making it to the tournament is only a start. Ummm, buddy, we have more appearances than Tennessee. lol We have 26 to your 20
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:52 am to STLhog
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looks dope
What are you 14?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:53 am to 5thTiger
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I recognize both Norm Stewart and Mike Anderson as good coaches, not great or elite ones though. Their differing styles won games, but never pushed over the edge. Norm's teams always played hard on defense, crashed the glass, but seemingly never had that guard/wing player that could take over a game with a mismatch. Anderson's Mizzou teams usually struggled against elite big men with the smarts to slow the tempo of the game. UConn in the Elite Eight in 2009 comes to mind. Hasheem Thabeet destroyed us, even though we played excellent, there was no way we were going to win that game.
That was a thoughtful, reasonable, and well argued point there. You should apologize to everyone here!
I even tend to agree with it. I was here for Nolan ball so I know it has its ups and downs.
I still think KA should get another season to put his system and players on the court. Mizzou just doesn't have the players. Bring Dean Smith back from the dead, have his Asst. coach be a healthy Pat Summit, and have John Wooden's bagman ready to distribute cash and Mizzou's team this season would still have a losing record.
It is probably going to take a year or two before something comes together... and it may very well be that KA is not the coach to get you there in the long haul.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:59 am to hawgfaninc
Nope, heres why, 40 minutes only works at home. havoc and 40 minutes is a bust.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:16 am to STLhog
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Get back to me when ya'll make a final four...
I don't really care if A&M Men's basketball ever makes the Final Four.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I don't really care if A&M Men's basketball ever makes the Final Four.
Supporting/Keeping Sumlin around shows you don't care much about any Final Fours.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:59 pm to KCM0Tiger
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In all honesty this year could be Mike's "team" where he actually does something, and then goes back to mediocrity once he loses Portis and Qualls....just like he did at Mizzou.
come on, man. elite eight (the farthest Mizzou has ever been, btw), second round, second round, is 'mediocrity' for mizzou?
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:02 pm to WaveHog
and fwiw, I believe the mizzou fans who say they wouldn't want him back. I remember reading the scorn from Mizzou fans when he left and there was at least a portion that was happy he left.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:19 pm to WaveHog
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second round, second round
At least one (if not both) of these "second rounds" is really the first round but they pretend is the second round because of the play in games.
The year we played Cincinnati (2011, I believe), we lost the first game we played.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:50 pm to STLhog
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Supporting/Keeping Sumlin around shows you don't care much about any Final Fours.
Meh. He can recruit better than Beliema and hasn't lost to Arkansas so I don't think we have any better options.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:05 pm to mizslu314
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Nope, heres why, 40 minutes only works at home. havoc and 40 minutes is a bust.
To me, this is the fallacy that many believe without looking deeper. The Nolan/MA style of 40 Minutes will work anywhere - home, away, neutral. The caveat is that it must have an abundance of the right talent. Gotta have a PG who can distribute and make everyone better on offense and absolutely shut down the other team's pg on the defensive end (see Beck, Corey). Bulldogs and sharpshooters with really long arms needed at the 2, 3, and 4 positions. Not so important at the 4, actually. The best team Nolan ever had featured Corliss who played 4/5 and was a beast on both ends of the floor, but it also had Dwight Stewart who was not much defensively but was very dangerous offensively. All of the great Nolan teams had a 6th man who could start on most other teams. Roger Crawford, Ron Huery and Lenzie Howell all fit that bill. Then, your next 4 off the bench had to be high energy guys who could maintain the lead that the first wave built. The 40 Minutes is predicated on (A) superior talent; and (B) superior depth. It is a thing of beauty when those pieces are in place. That's a fairly obvious observation that is true for all styles - Superior talent and superior depth will win any time, anywhere.
However, where the 40 Minutes philosophy breaks down is when those elements are not in place. Take a guy like Bill Self or Eddie Sutton or Krzyzewski - any of the greats - and they can adapt to their players' strengths and/or exploit an opponent's specific weakness. The 40 Minutes philosophy doesn't do that. The 40 Minutes is a hammer and everything it sees is a nail. There is no adapting. If a team is not collapsing under its pressure, there's not really a Plan B.
It's taken MA 4 years to get the right pieces in place - the right talent at the right spots on the floor, plus the depth to sub in and out. We're seeing it start to pay off - home and road. The system can work, but the window in which it operates successfully is just a whole lot smaller than other systems.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:01 pm to casublett1
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Just making it to the tournament is only a start. Ummm, buddy, we have more appearances than Tennessee. lol We have 26 to your 20
Go Vols.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:12 pm to TeLeFaWx
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eh. He can recruit better than Beliema and hasn't lost to Arkansas so I don't think we have any better options.
I'll give you the haven't lost part, that's on us but signing 95% out of Texas isn't exactly blowing it out of the water. A&M and UTs average decade or so can attest to how overrated Texas high school football has been. Also factoring in Sack Brown and That old dude you guys had...
Also, this years recruiting finish for yall was nothing to pump your chest about... All things considered.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:22 pm to hawgfaninc
nope..
next question.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:53 pm to Jagd Tiger
No. I wish they would have hired Kim Anderson after Quinn.
Give Kim a couple more years Haith killed our BB program...Alden was a complete tool....
Give Kim a couple more years Haith killed our BB program...Alden was a complete tool....
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:04 pm to TheJoseyWales
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Give Kim a couple more years Haith killed our BB program...Alden was a complete tool....
Recruits coming in?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:25 pm to BenHOGan
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The Nolan/MA style of 40 Minutes will work anywhere - home, away, neutral.
It can work on the road. The reason it doesn't at times is because if a game is called tight, the 40 minutes of hell will turn into the 40 minutes of fouls. That is more likely to happen on the road than at home. Or at least that is how it was back in the days of the Big 12 when we had MA. SEC refs just seem to suck period with little attention to who is on the road and who is at home.
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