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Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:33 pm to WildcatMike
Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:33 pm to WildcatMike
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I can honestly say I have heckled a few that are playing in the majors today.
You a heckling douche? No way.. I can't see that
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It is the SEC culture, you want to dominate everything in every sport. It is part of the game.
Either compete with the Jimmies and Joe's, or your athletic program will be left in the dust.
Is this why your football program is in the dust?
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:40 pm to WildcatMike
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ave to step up, it is just that way in ALL sports...part of the SEC culture
Because Alabama is doing that
Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:43 pm to Cheese Grits
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The issue is not why you try to justify why Mizzou does not get behind your teams but why if you wanted to be in the SEC you do not want to support your school the way other SEC fans do?
Do you want a real answer, or do you want to continue to troll?
Sorry for delay, was on the phone as evidenced by the bad autocorrect in my last response.
ETA: Serious question. I only ask because you seem to be really interested in Mizzou sporting attendance.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:45 pm to Billder
I have never and will never get this board's obsession with college baseball attendance. Why do some of you care so much? You don't see football or basketball attendance threads very often, and those never turn into the dick measuring contests baseball attendance threads inevitably become.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:47 pm to Robot Santa
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I have never and will never get this board's obsession with college baseball attendance. Why do some of you care so much?
I think Siggy Freud would have a strong opinion on the matter.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:55 pm to WildcatMike
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Do you realize how many future MLB super stars are playing weekend SEC series? I can honestly say I have heckled a few that are playing in the majors today. Also, it is our "happy hour" or cocktail party on the Party Deck, it is fun.
We've had our share recently. The problem with baseball is that you don't know who the superstars are until you're looking in hindsight.
We could get the happy hour/party deck thing going, and I think it would help. The campus is pretty tough on the alcohol front, though. I'm pretty sure it's a result of being so close to Anheuser Busch, but I digress.
We'll get up there. I just don't see a whole ton of people driving in from KC or STL for college baseball when there's better alternatives.
Getting the students out we could certainly do a better job of.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:07 pm to Mizzeaux
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I just don't see a whole ton of people driving in from KC or STL for college baseball when there's better alternatives
A&M, UT, Rice and TCU baseball are all well supported in Texas despite having 2 MLB teams. It's a sports culture thing, not an issue of making a choice.
Not criticizing it. I love college baseball but I went to a school where it's taken relatively seriously. I can see how it might be hard to take it seriously as a fan at Mizzou when there isn't a big history or culture around it
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:13 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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A&M, UT, Rice and TCU baseball are all well supported in Texas despite having 2 MLB teams. It's a sports culture thing, not an issue of making a choice
All good teams recently. So it's a chicken/egg situation. Plus, aTm has 50,000 students and TCU is in the metroplex and Rice is in Houston.
It's not that simple.
If we were hitting the CWS frequently, I doubt Simmons Field would be abandoned. It will take constant CWS appearances in the Columbia metro area of 200,000 to get the attendance, especially when the alumni bases (that are 100 miles away) have MLB teams.
ETA: if Mizzou was in Kansas City or STL, I doubt this conversation would be needed. Columbia is on a bit of an island. The immediate city has 120,000 people. It's hard to get even 5% of that population interested in bad college baseball to fill Simmons on a daily basis. Especially with no beer.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:13 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I would say Baylor easily has better support than Mizzou too. UH and Tech don't really support anything outside of football. SMU doesn't have baseball. That's all the SWC schools where there was a baseball culture.
The Big 8 was never a baseball conference (outside of OSU) so there is no legacy of support. Schools like Nebraska and Oklahoma supported it in Big 12 days though. We have the same problem with hoops honestly as it was never a big deal in the SWC. It takes time to build that sort of following it seems.
The Big 8 was never a baseball conference (outside of OSU) so there is no legacy of support. Schools like Nebraska and Oklahoma supported it in Big 12 days though. We have the same problem with hoops honestly as it was never a big deal in the SWC. It takes time to build that sort of following it seems.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:17 pm to Mizzeaux
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Kinda expected this response.
I'm just wondering why people show up to college baseball games.
Some explanation other than one the nazis would use to get support for an unknown cause is appreciated.
Because we have GREAT EXPERIENCES in college at these baseball games -- and we want to go back and relive those experiences after we graduate. Why are they great? Because it's a several hr/day 3day tailgate(just the weekend games that the vast majority of most alums can get back to) party WHILE watching a baseball game. It's literally like a spring football season for us -- only we never have to leave the tailgate to go to the game -- we tailgate AT the game.
$5 beer and $5 hotdogs in a minor league park does not compare to virtually unlimited(retail) cooler beer -- liquor if you want it -- bbq, crawfish, wild game, etc like happens on the grills and cookers in the outfields @ Dudy Noble and Swayze. You simply can't recreate the environment at any other type of baseball game. Nevermind that all this fun ends up costing you $20-30 at MSU -- while the same amount of excess would easily run you $150 at the average MiLB park...
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:20 pm to tmc94
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I would say Baylor easily has better support than Mizzou too. UH and Tech don't really support anything outside of football. SMU doesn't have baseball. That's all the SWC schools where there was a baseball culture. The Big 8 was never a baseball conference (outside of OSU) so there is no legacy of support. Schools like Nebraska and Oklahoma supported it in Big 12 days though. We have the same problem with hoops honestly as it was never a big deal in the SWC. It takes time to build that sort of following it seems.
Definitely. We could make the same argument for our basketball support vs. Missouri's saying "We have 3 NBA teams, sorry your state doesn't have the NBA." But that isn't the case. We have a relatively weak history and basketball culture at A&M and that's why our support for the program is pretty bandwagon ish. It has nothing to do with the Spurs, Rockets or Mavs
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:22 pm to engie
And that's what I was looking for.
It's an experience. The same reason people go to MLB games. The Experience.
We've never had that. There are no alumni to come back and relive the experiences at Mizzou baseball games. They don't exist. It will take some time. It will happen, I'm sure. Maybe it will never reach those levels, but it's building an experience from the ground up.
Give it some time. We haven't had the benefit of 80 years of SEC baseball to cultivate those things. While it's happening, there will be threads like this. They're all pointless, and they're all full of shitty posts about us sucking. Team's not great, experience is whatever.
We do have a hill to climb (as mentioned in my previous posts), but it will happen. Just chill.
Chill enough and it might snow.
It's an experience. The same reason people go to MLB games. The Experience.
We've never had that. There are no alumni to come back and relive the experiences at Mizzou baseball games. They don't exist. It will take some time. It will happen, I'm sure. Maybe it will never reach those levels, but it's building an experience from the ground up.
Give it some time. We haven't had the benefit of 80 years of SEC baseball to cultivate those things. While it's happening, there will be threads like this. They're all pointless, and they're all full of shitty posts about us sucking. Team's not great, experience is whatever.
We do have a hill to climb (as mentioned in my previous posts), but it will happen. Just chill.
Chill enough and it might snow.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:23 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Definitely. We could make the same argument for our basketball support vs. Missouri's saying "We have 3 NBA teams, sorry your state doesn't have the NBA." But that isn't the case. We have a relatively weak history and basketball culture at A&M and that's why our support for the program is pretty bandwagon ish. It has nothing to do with the Spurs, Rockets or Mavs
You have a completely valid point. Are you saying we're wrong or right?
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:23 pm to Mizzeaux
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We've had our share recently. The problem with baseball is that you don't know who the superstars are until you're looking in hindsight.
You can tell this damn near as well in the SEC as you can at any point in the minors...
I've got a Double A affiliate 20 minutes from my house. I drive 2.5 hours to Starkville or 3 hours to Oxford every weekend that I can during the spring...
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:24 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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A&M, UT, Rice and TCU baseball are all well supported in Texas despite having 2 MLB teams. It's a sports culture thing, not an issue of making a choice.
Pretty bad analogy because so many factors aren't considered.
People aren't going to drive 2 hours into Como to watch baseball in chilly weather, especially when the real deal is a month away.
We fill our football and basketball stadiums. Some of you are too obsessed with baseball attendance.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:25 pm to Mizzeaux
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I just don't see a whole ton of people driving in from KC or STL for college baseball when there's better alternatives.
There's not better alternatives -- you just haven't bothered actually building the Mizzou baseball brand yet in the way that many in the SEC have. The experience that I'm describing is one that you can not get at a pro game...
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:25 pm to engie
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I drive 2.5 hours to Starkville or 3 hours to Oxford every weekend that I can during the spring...
Glad I have a life that doesn't revolve around driving 3 hours to watch baseball every weekend.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:26 pm to Mizzeaux
I'm in agreement with you I think. Some of the other Mizzou posters who want to flame back with "LOL ur states are poor and dont have pro sports" are the ones who that was aimed at
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:27 pm to engie
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There's not better alternatives -- you just haven't bothered actually building the Mizzou baseball brand yet in the way that many in the SEC have. The experience that I'm describing is one that you can not get at a pro game...
Apparently you've never been to Busch Stadium.. You know, baseball heaven.
And we do have small independent minor league teams in the metro area that you can get the nice little atmosphere, if desired.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 3/30/13 at 6:27 pm to Mizzeaux
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ETA: if Mizzou was in Kansas City or STL, I doubt this conversation would be needed. Columbia is on a bit of an island. The immediate city has 120,000 people. It's hard to get even 5% of that population interested in bad college baseball to fill Simmons on a daily basis. Especially with no beer.
This is such a ridiculous argument... Starkville and Oxford do it with total populations of 40-50k...
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