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re: Miles offered John Chavis hefty extension night of Music City Bowl

Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:36 am to
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:36 am to
quote:

TeLeFaWx


You're truly obsessed with this. Yes both aTm and LSU entered the season with a new DC. We are now on week 3. The aTm defense looked good against ASU, the LSU defense looked good against Miss State.

At this point you're just coming across as extremely desperate for someone to tell you how good aTm is and how great Chavis is and that LSU is going to be screwed for the next 1,000 years. It isn't a good look.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:36 am to
So, to recap, we have 2 proven liars in this thread in TexLaFaWx and Old Sarge. Impressive.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58690 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:36 am to
quote:

TeLeFaWx


Scared about the ammunition this gives to Steele and O on the recruiting trail. I don't blame you. I would be too. Any D recruit that is slightly on the fence is going to be tipped over to LSU.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55293 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:37 am to
One proven liar

Draconian Sanctions
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84853 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:38 am to
still waiting on the links you claim to have
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:38 am to
Chavis was out at LSU. He may have said that he needed a guarantee blah blah (mythical), but Chavis was not returning to coach under Miles under any circumstances. LSU didn't call anyone's bluff. He simply wasn't coming back. You guys upgraded. Forward.->
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:38 am to
quote:

At this point you're just coming across as extremely desperate for someone to tell you how good aTm is and how great Chavis is and that LSU is going to be screwed for the next 1,000 years. It isn't a good look.



Classic straw man argument, that you should be too old to think works. My only contention has been that Chavis is an all time great DC and Steele is not. One is clearly better than the other. LSU would be better on defense if Chavis was still in Baton Rouge. If you think that's some sort of hyperbolic opinion, I don't know what to tell you, but 99.99% of people would rather have Chavis than Steele.
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3684 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Scared about the ammunition this gives to Steele and O on the recruiting trail. I don't blame you. I would be too. Any D recruit that is slightly on the fence is going to be tipped over to LSU


Yall keep saying this but Mack recommitted to A&M when Chavis was hired. We have amazing recruiters in our organization and just because Chavis got lazy and complacent at LSU doesn't mean for a fact he will at A&M with Sumlin flying him around in the Swagcopter.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:41 am to
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The fact you keep saying this, with absolute certainty, after one game shows how ignorant you are.


Um. The swamp kittens here said the opposite with zero games. I've seen Chavis as a DC and Steele as a DC. At what point did anyone in the college football world ever think Steele was better than Chavis? I need to see Steele coach at LSU before I can contend that the overwhelming consensus still holds true? How old are you?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73577 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

he desperation by LSU fans to diminish that it was even the slightest downgrade has been down right hilarious


Ya'll have started 5 threads in 24hrs on this beat to death subject you idiot

You have our approval mmmmmkay

Just admit we upgraded and so did ya'll

Oh and Key >>>>> Garrett.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

TeLeFaWx


LSU has played 1 game, against an SECW opponent and the defense looked pretty good.

aTm has played two games, 1 against ASU, and the defense looked good.

Your contention is that Chavis is an all-time great DC, okay fine. We certainly enjoyed success with him at the helm of the defense. So did Tennessee.

However, we clearly believe the combination of Steele and Orgeron will be able to make up for his absence and through 1 game we seem to be doing fine.

I'm not sure why you are so emotionally attached to this.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Um. The swamp kittens here said the opposite with zero games. I've seen Chavis as a DC and Steele as a DC. At what point did anyone in the college football world ever think Steele was better than Chavis? I need to see Steele coach at LSU before I can contend that the overwhelming consensus still holds true?


You keep bringing up Steele vs. Chavis. Why? The argument is 2014 LSU vs. 2015 LSU, and at this point 2015 LSU is better.

I'm sorry you can't comprehend that.


quote:

How old are you?


Old enough to realize that you have a pathological obsession with people telling you that Chavis is better than Steele, and it's weird.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58690 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Yall keep saying this but Mack recommitted to A&M when Chavis was hired.


Yep, before this info. came out.

quote:

We have amazing recruiters in our organization


Good. You'll need them.

quote:

ust because Chavis got lazy and complacent at LSU doesn't mean for a fact he will at A&M with Sumlin flying him around in the Swagcopter.


Sure, he's going to change his ways now. I bet he's switched to a paleo diet and hits the gym every morning too.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Just admit we upgraded and so did ya'll


How desperately do you need to believe that Kevin Steele is an upgrade? Will y'all fire Les if it isn't?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:48 am to
quote:

You keep bringing up Steele vs. Chavis. Why? The argument is 2014 LSU vs. 2015 LSU, and at this point 2015 LSU is better.

I'm sorry you can't comprehend that.



Because you beat Mississippi State by 2 points? How the mighty have fallen.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19061 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:51 am to
quote:

How many knowledgeable posters knew about how LSU desperately wanted to keep him and came back with more money than A&M was willing to offer? Did you?


Story was just published in the Baton Rouge paper "The Advocate" today so probably not too many.

At the time, I was all in to keep him. From what I have learned since I am glad he left. Our DL and LB cabinets will be empty in a year or two if major recruits do not come in and fill the void. Steele and Orgeron appear to be accomplishing that. I also believe he tanked the Music City Bowl or at least put in no effort... He had things to gain by that BTW. LSU was courting several of aTm's coveted D recruits who had decommitted because Sumlin did not have a DC named. By tanking the LSU bowl game his job of retaining those recruits was going to be easier...
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22154 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

My only contention has been that Chavis is an all time great DC and Steele is not. One is clearly better than the other. LSU would be better on defense if Chavis was still in Baton Rouge. If you think that's some sort of hyperbolic opinion, I don't know what to tell you, but 99.99% of people would rather have Chavis than Steele.


Would I rather have Chavis than Steele all other things being equal? Yes. But, Chavis and Brick vs. Steele and Coach O is a much much tougher decision. If our D-line improves this year, then I can't say I would rather have chavis and brick back. If the first game is any indication, our d-line looks much improved.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58690 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Would I rather have Chavis than Steele all other things being equal? Yes. But, Chavis and Brick vs. Steele and Coach O is a much much tougher decision. If our D-line improves this year, then I can't say I would rather have chavis and brick back. If the first game is any indication, our d-line looks much improved.


Well said.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:54 am to
Dline improved. Don t care
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:56 am to
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Because you beat Mississippi State by 2 points? How the mighty have fallen.


2014 - Lost to MSU at home.
2015 - Beat MSU on the road.

2014 - Dak: 373 yards of offense and 3 TDs.
2015 - DaK: 315 yards of offense and 2 TDs.

2014 - MSU: 570 yards of offense and 34 points.
2015 - MSU: 373 yards of offense and 19 points.

2014 - LSU is 0-1 in the SEC after 1st game.
2015 - LSU is 1-0 in the SEC after 1st game.



See. Improvement.

Sorry you don't like facts.
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