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re: Mike VI diagnosed with Cancer

Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:02 pm to
good one
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

No....

Its not

well, Mike was born in captivity, so he would not have fared well in the wild. the life he's had at LSU is as good as he ever would have lived anywhere
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:05 pm to
That's nonsense.

I get it. You guys are going to defend the process, and I understand why but quit trying to justify it with anything more than you think its cool to have a live Tiger.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

That's nonsense.

what's nonsense? he was born in a zoo. You cannot just throw a Tiger born in captivity into the wild and expect them to survive. Tigers are not pack animals. They live a life of solitude. He would not know how to hunt to survive. And the zoo he was at in Indiana when he was born and lived until he was 2 was not even close to as nice as where he lives currently. It's not about defending having a live mascot. It's using common sense.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:10 pm to
I shouldn't have to explain to you that a life of captivity will never and can not equal a life free in the wild.

I understand that he was not born in the wild, although there have been Tigers born in captivity that have been realeased and fared well. That's not really my point though.

Its broader than just this particular animal. I have no doubts he is cared for well.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19451 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:10 pm to
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That's nonsense.

I get it. You guys are going to defend the process, and I understand why but quit trying to justify it with anything more than you think its cool to have a live Tiger.


No, it's not nonsense. Question..... Mike was born in captivity, hand fed by humans, never learning to hunt on his own. How would he survive in the wild? Have you ever been to South Africa/India? I have, that shite is for REAL. You either kill and eat or don't and die. Mother Nature is one tough bitch. You also need to learn about big cats and the family groups they live in. Without the protection of the pride, you die. And you just don't throw a new cat into the pride.

Hate to hear this for Mike, he brings a lot of pleasure to thousands each year.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Translocation, or the release of big cats, is much more of a challenge. Some smaller cats have been released quite successfully, the cougar is one of these. Amongst the big cats, lions have also occasionally made the transition from captive to wild life. But tigers present various special difficulties and a captive-bred tiger release, with any degree of success, has only ever been planned and executed just the once.

LINK
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:17 pm to
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That's nonsense.

I get it. You guys are going to defend the process, and I understand why but quit trying to justify it with anything more than you think its cool to have a live Tiger.


The only nonsense here is you acting like a blanket statement of "all tigers are better off in the wild" isn't borderline retarded.

A Tiger born in captivity has almost no chance to survive in the wild. So saying they're better off there than remaining in captivity is ignorant.

ETA: lsufball19 brought the link for you.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7018 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:18 pm to
Mike and his Friend
Advise watchin . Great vid
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:21 pm to
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A Tiger born in captivity has almost no chance to survive in the wild. So saying they're better off there than remaining in captivity is ignorant.


according to the link I provided, successful transition to the wild for a Tiger has happened ONCE. But yeah, we should just throw all the Tigers in captivity to the wild to die. There are less than 4000 total Tigers living in the wild currently. I'd love to hear the benefit of releasing more into the wild that aren't even equipped to survive. If this Missouri guy wants to blame someone, don't blame zoos, blame poaching. The numbers in the wild were over 100k in the early 1900s and dropped to under 4000 by the 1970s
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:23 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:23 pm to
Tigers do not live in a pride. They are solitary, occasionally found in pairs but not often
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59650 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:24 pm to

quote:

JesusQuintana



what a libetard


quote:

missouri fan



ok makes sense
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Tigers do not live in a pride. They are solitary, occasionally found in pairs but not often

exactly, which makes it even more of a challenge to introduce a captive bred Tiger into the wild. If you'll read the article posted, there are special difficulties with Tigers because of this. They aren't taught how to hunt. They aren't taught how to socialize with other wild tigers, and they aren't taught to be wary of humans. There is a reason only one Tiger has been successfully introduced into the wild EVER. Would you rather the species die because of poaching or have Tigers live a long life in captivity with food every day and people taking care of them?

In a perfect world, hunters wouldn't kill them by the thousands and this wouldn't be an issue. But it is all the same
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24390 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:25 pm to
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I get it. You guys are going to defend the process, and I understand why but quit trying to justify it with anything more than you think its cool to have a live Tiger.


Please put your helmet on before you leave the house next time. Sheesh.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:39 pm to
Im not advocating releasing this tiger or any other until an effective program for doing so is available. There are groups working on this sort of thing.

I simply took offense with the notion that his life in captivity is better than being in the wild.

That's it.

I don't think LSU is evil for having a Tiger.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59650 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:40 pm to
is it ok if he is replaced if he passes away?

Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:40 pm to
If I recall correctly, Mike, aka Roscoe, is also a hybrid tiger, his parent being of two subspecies of tiger that would never mate in the wild. He was not eligible for use in breeding for that reason.
Posted by BigRuGGed
Georgia
Member since Sep 2013
246 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:48 pm to
East st Louis would be perfect for a wild habitat for a confused tiger.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

I simply took offense with the notion that his life in captivity is better than being in the wild.


Well, in his case it is. So taking offense to it makes zero sense.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:53 pm to
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JesusQuintana


You don't have to be a horse's behind with every post. Seriously. Save your stupidity for another thread.
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