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re: Mike Bellotti: I don't consider programs that fire three coaches in a row to be top jobs
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:28 pm to geauxbrown
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:28 pm to geauxbrown
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recruiting base
That's probably their Achilles heel, IMO. Tennessee doesn't produce enough talent in state to sustain their recruiting efforts enough to be competitive.
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:32 pm to Tuscaloosa
Tennessee does just fine in recruiting. Their problem is, they have a sheep leading a bunch of lions.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:46 pm to CharlotteSooner
They haven't been horrible recruiting, but I don't think their in state High School talent will ever allow them to be elite without an elite recruiter who can go into neighboring states throughout the southeast and poach top talent. Over the last 10 recruiting cycles, they're averaging about 6th in the SEC each year.
My only point is that a prospective coach isn't going to look at UT and list the ease of recruiting among the perks.
My only point is that a prospective coach isn't going to look at UT and list the ease of recruiting among the perks.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:55 pm to Tuscaloosa
You're talking to a Sooner. I know all about in-state recruiting woes in a low-pop state and having to go outside of your home state to find talent. We've been doing that for decades. I see them recruit well year after year, better than we do on average. They have enough talent to be a playoff team. I can see that with my own eyes.
They need somebody in charge who can harness the talent they have. We've done it with less talent than they have, so have many other teams that are historical shite programs. I see poor talent development at Tennessee. There's no excuse at Tennessee. There just isn't. Their fans are correct to be upset.
They need somebody in charge who can harness the talent they have. We've done it with less talent than they have, so have many other teams that are historical shite programs. I see poor talent development at Tennessee. There's no excuse at Tennessee. There just isn't. Their fans are correct to be upset.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:01 am to CharlotteSooner
You guys are bordering a state that has enough high school talent to outfit an entire Power 5 conference by itself. Your roster has almost 40 players from Texas.
Again, my only point in saying any of that is that coaches aren't looking at Tennessee and saying "boy, it sure would be easy to recruit there" as a perk of potentially taking that job.
Again, my only point in saying any of that is that coaches aren't looking at Tennessee and saying "boy, it sure would be easy to recruit there" as a perk of potentially taking that job.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:04 am to Bench McElroy
That statement is just kind of stupid. For example, Alabama fired Shula, Francoine, and DuBose. And yet, Saban still thought it was a top job.
Hell even Gene Stallings got fired (ahem, "encouraged" to retire). That's how most coaches go out.
Hell even Gene Stallings got fired (ahem, "encouraged" to retire). That's how most coaches go out.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:08 am to TxTiger82
We didn't fire Franchione. He left in the middle of the night and didn't tell anyone he was leaving. We did fire Mike Price before he ever coached a game, though. He was using a UA credit card to pay for strippers. 
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:10 am to Tuscaloosa
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He was using a UA credit card to pay for strippers.
He must have slept through the training sessions where they tell you not to do that.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:12 am to Tuscaloosa
Tennessee signs better recruiting classes than we do year in and year out. They may not border TX, but they're in SEC territory and they pull talent from all over that region and they out-recruit us. Their players don't get better. Their players don't emerge. They don't have a recruiting problem. They have a development problem. We have a walk-on QB in the Heisman race for frick sake. They haven't had a QB since Manning. That's development.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:13 am to HailToTheChiz
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what a dumb statement
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:16 am to CharlotteSooner
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Their players don't get better. Their players don't emerge. They don't have a recruiting problem. They have a development problem.
I mean, Tennessee has 29 players in the NFL and Oklahoma has 35. That's not a huge difference. I think you may be overstating their problem.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:21 am to TxTiger82
No because the NFL will develop players regardless of what Tennessee does. I'm talking about what I see on the field from Tennessee in college football. The NFL can see talent whether it's developed or not, no matter where they are. That's what they do. The fact that Tennessee has so many NFL players and accomplished so little reinforces what I'm saying.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 12:22 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:27 am to CharlotteSooner
Gonna disagree with you there. There are so many CFB players that the NFL doesn't have to waste time on undeveloped or underdeveloped talent.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:28 am to CharlotteSooner
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Tennessee signs better recruiting classes than we do year in and year out.
According to the 247sports composite, they've only done this 4 of the last 10 recruiting cycles, and 2 of those can be attributed to UT signing 30+ recruits.
And keep in mind this isn't about comparing UT to Oklahoma. Oklahoma finishes with the top ranked recruiting class in the Big 12 more times than not. UT is averaging middle of the pack in the SEC. Prospective coaches know they're going to have to recruit against Bama, Florida, UGA, etc... in their own state.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 12:31 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:42 am to Clark14
Nutt, Petrino, Bert
RIP Arkansas football
RIP Arkansas football
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:20 am to CockyTime
We didn’t fire Nutt he was paid to resign but we did fire “smile” in between Petrino and Bielema so we should still get to three.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:48 am to Tuscaloosa
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That's probably their Achilles heel, IMO. Tennessee doesn't produce enough talent in state to sustain their recruiting efforts enough to be competitive.
This isn't true anymore. AT. ALL.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 4:51 am to Tuscaloosa
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I don't think their in state High School talent will ever allow them to be elite without an elite recruiter who can go into neighboring states throughout the southeast and poach top talent.
You haven't been paying attention to HS talent and where it's located. We've passed more than one SEC state but y'all keep plugging your ears to that fact.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 5:34 am to Bench McElroy
"Top coaching job" is rather subjective. Different coaches can find just about any reason to want to coach somewhere or to not. I think the comment was talking about one weighted aspect in job security. I suppose mixed in with that is the overall culture of the program, where expectations may be unreasonably high and patience for building a successful program too low.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:30 am to Bench McElroy
I guess USC isn’t a top job
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