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re: Meyer: Saban is not the greatest coach ever but he is in the top two or three

Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by ACL11190
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:02 pm to
It feels good to be on top. I can't help but feel superior to all of these fans of inferior schools.

I try to stay modest, but it's hard.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:08 pm to
I bet Meyer belched uncomfortably and rubbed his chest repeatedly during that interview.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:11 pm to
Lil' Nicky aint shite.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

Saban is a lot like Bear, in that he adapts to the changing of the game and doesn't get stuck trying to do the same thing and expecting results to remain the same. Except for man coverage against running QB's.. lol


This is going to be the test for Urban and why right now I'd give the edge to Saban.

Both can build a program to championship levels and do it very quickly. The one thing Saban's done that Urban hasn't thus far is to sustain that success for an extended period of time. Nick is entering his 10th season at Bama and 2015 proved that rumors of his demise had been greatly exaggerated. They've entered every November since 2008 still in the national title discussion and won 10 or more games each of those seasons in the most difficult division in college football.

Urban's never been anywhere longer than 6 seasons and his last year at UF was not pretty. For him to be in Saban's league he's got to show the ability to keep it up.

2016 will be a good test. They had 9 players leave early and they play three OOC teams that made bowls this year including a trip to Oklahoma. In conference, they have road trips to Wisky and Sparty. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:34 pm to
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Savage, you're one stupid son of a bitch.


Funny how you react to facts. Don't ever change.
Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:50 pm to
Urban has not shown he can sustain a program after major losses of personnel and coordinators. After Tebows class left and Charlie Strong and Mullen were both gone Urban was bad. He was awful in 2010 in a down east and left because 2011 was looking worse.

Next two years will show what he's made of. His offense was bad this year with no Tom Herman. OSU had a lot of rats jump off the ship. He is lucky only 1 other team in the BIG has the roster and coaching staff that can actually compete. He is in perfect spot to pile up wins and hardware.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:29 pm to
The fact that I don't plan on changing doesn't change the fact that you're dumb as a box of of rocks.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:50 pm to
saban made meyer quit
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:52 pm to
He was referring to all time I thought? He's right.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 10:53 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:25 pm to
Meyer just whooped Saban's arse in the playoffs and won a title.

Bama fans need to calm down and realize there are other great coaches in college football besides Saban.
Posted by BamaScoop
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:37 pm to
Meyer probably wants the job when Saban retires.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:54 pm to
There are other great coaches at the college level today, Saban just happens to be the best.

Urban has an opportunity to eclipse Saban, provided his health holds up.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:02 am to
Saban is not the best, he's not the best at his school.

The comments were made all time.
(No order)
Bryant
Wilkinson
Leahy
Rockne
McKay
Bible


I know this will get blowback from Bama fans but ehh
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:12 am to
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Bryant


An argument can still be made for him.

quote:

Wilkinson


Was in his prime before integration and during the one platoon era of football. His competition wasn't the greatest either.

quote:

Leahy


Coached during World War II when the vast majority of schools were hurting for players due to college-aged athletes fighting overseas. His record was impressive but he also didn't face the best college football had to offer.

quote:

Rockne


An argument can most certainly be made for him.

quote:

McKay


Hardly. Frank Thomas at Alabama from 1931-1946 had a better record than McKay did. Not as many wins (115 vs. 127) but far fewer losses (24 vs. 40).

quote:

Bible


This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 12:14 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:26 am to
Bible developed much of the rules and techniques of offense used when he developed the T. But people just look at wins and losses.

Just like Ault who developed the pistol

Great coaches don't always win when developing things
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:29 am to
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But people just look at wins and losses.


That's because it's all that really matters when you're a coach. You can have the flashiest offense in the world but if you don't win games with it you aren't going to have a job for too long.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:35 am to
But that doesn't necessarily tell me the greatness of a coach.

There are guys in lower levels who didn't want to move up have more championships but people never mention them.

Keheres owns a win percentage of .929 but never gets mentioned in these discussions. I think he won 45+ games in a row twice.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65077 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 2:05 am to
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But that doesn't necessarily tell me the greatness of a coach.


Then what does? There really is no complicated formula to determine the greatness of a coach. Coaches are judged by the amount of wins they have and the number of championships won.


quote:

There are guys in lower levels who didn't want to move up have more championships but people never mention them.



Because they haven't proven themselves in the FBS. It's one thing to win in Division III and quite another to win at the highest level. Why do you think no one ever mentions Eddie Robinson in the discussion of who the greatest coach is? Because he never did anything outside of Division II/Division I-AA.
This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 2:21 am
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 2:08 am to
How can anyone say Saban is not tGOAT CFB coach? 4 titles in 7 years at one school, 2 Heisman winners, in an age with extreme competition, tight scholarship restrictions, yearly mass exodus of transfers and NFL declarations, and in the most talent-laden and toughest conference in the country.
Posted by Shakita Bonita
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Member since Dec 2015
1538 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 5:57 am to
I take it this has rustled you.
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