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re: Mark Richt: Off-field issues magnified because we discipline and others don't
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:57 am to Crimson Legend
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:57 am to Crimson Legend
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I couldn't find anywhere in his comments where he claimed other programs don't discipline.
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If we ignore stuff they do and act like it didn't happen and sweep it under the rug like the other guys
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:58 am to CockInYourEar
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I'm willing to take that risk if the process will help these guys grow into men. If we ignore stuff they do and act like it didn't happen and sweep it under the rug like the other guys, let them get away with it or whatever, what are we teaching? We are setting them up for failure down the road."
Absolutely nothing wrong with any of this. The real litmus test here isn't whether or not he has players getting in trouble and arrested while under his watch. The real test is what becomes of his players at the next level. Anybody have any stats on that?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:59 am to monsterballads
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21 arrests in 4 years
That kind of says it all. The holier than thou leghumpers can talk about others "sweeping stuff under the rug" all they want. It is hard to hide a player arrest in this day and age. Averaging over five arrests, the last four years, shows that there is a problem at UGA.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:00 am to NYCAuburn
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If we ignore stuff they do and act like it didn't happen and sweep it under the rug like the other guys
Yep, I missed it. So much for my reading comprehension.
Sort of a douchey thing to say. Everything else was just fine.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:04 am to Pavoloco83
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Maybe with Pruitt there now, that might change some, but I think fear factor plays in to rules respect, especially in the case of some kids who didnt grow up in families with strong male influences around.
It hasn't changed yet, I believe they have 1 more arrest than last year, even with Pruitt there.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:07 am to JStanDawgFan
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I couldn't find anywhere in his comments where he claimed other programs don't discipline. All I read was that he was explaining what his program does.
Unless I missed something, this thread title seems rather disingenuous. I have no problem with what Richt said.
So happy that there is at least one person on this board that reading comprehension has not eluded. You have begun the process of restoring my faith in humanity.
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If we ignore stuff they do and act like it didn't happen and sweep it under the rug like the other guys
Did OP doctor the quote?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:07 am to VFL1800FPD
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So, players getting arrested is part of UGA's discipline policy?
If some of you could walk and chew gum at the same time, it would be a miracle. It is really not rocket science. There are a few factors that play into the numbers. First off, the Athens bar scene is quite difficult to pass up on any given night regardless of statue as a student athlete or not. Richt is aware of this, however he only has minimal access to players during the offseason per NCAA guidelines. He also is stating that because of the school policy and his policy of suspension from games for arrests, that as a result it because a very public incident. Secondly, Richt believes that his players live with consequences for their actions in order to produce better men that do not revert back to criminal behavior later in life. Do players, get into trouble while in Athens? Sure. He realizes this more than anyone. Is he producing better men when they leave Athens? I would thinks so. This side of Odell Thurman, not many UGA NFL players appear on Roger Godell's radar for suspension issues.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:08 am to Pavoloco83
It is weird that all but one of our arrests recently have been on the defensive side of the ball. The last offensive player to get arrested was Crowell.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:08 am to MrAUTigers
Richt used to be a Miami coach.
Just pointing that out
Just pointing that out
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:09 am to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
I was coming here to post that. Richt is calling out the other coaches while trying to pretend that UGA only has more arrests because they "discipline" their players and not because he has very little control over them. Pretty lame attempt at an excuse IMO.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:10 am to JStanDawgFan
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Is he producing better men when they leave Athens? I would thinks so
Agreed
Thanks for the farm systemThis post was edited on 8/6/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:11 am to ugastudent
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It is weird that all but one of our arrests recently have been on the defensive side of the ball. The last offensive player to get arrested was Crowell.
Could that have something to do with their coordinator coming from the NFL? Just throwing that out there. Maybe he wasn't dialed into the problems with college athletes?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:12 am to Swoopin
Really? your example of better men is one that was recently in trouble for marijuana? 
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:12 am to Swoopin
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Did OP doctor the quote?
Nope. That is a good point as well. I think that it all is a catch 22. Richt never singled out a school, but precedent is set. There is an LSU player that is still on his team for identical charges that were later dropped, to Johnathan Taylor. If his charges get dropped as well, would you think better of Richt if Taylor was allowed back on the team?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:14 am to DuncanIdaho
Why publize it? Saban rarely does and I am in 100% agreement with the way Saban handles it. IMHO, Mark could take a leason from him.
Arrest are a different matter as that is in the public regardless. Again I agree with Saban why suspend a guy for a MaryJane Citation. That just hurts the program over something minor.
(Note: this is NOT sarcasm, I totally agree with Saban on this one)
Arrest are a different matter as that is in the public regardless. Again I agree with Saban why suspend a guy for a MaryJane Citation. That just hurts the program over something minor.
(Note: this is NOT sarcasm, I totally agree with Saban on this one)
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:17 am to JStanDawgFan
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If some of you could walk and chew gum at the same time, it would be a miracle. It is really not rocket science
You don't know any of us
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First off, the Athens bar scene is quite difficult to pass up on any given night regardless of statue as a student athlete or not
Of course you find a way to fap to Athens on a completely unrelated topic. No other SEC schools have bar scenes that attract football players to them i guess. And Richt has the same amount of control as every other coach does during the offseason.
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He also is stating that because of the school policy and his policy of suspension from games for arrests, that as a result it because a very public incident
I'm pretty sure 95% of incidents of football players being arrested is on the national media within 24 hours of the arrest, before the staff has the chance to even publicise it themselves. I meant, look at Nick marshall's arrest. The ESPN story on his arrestr broke literally less tham 24 hours after it happened. Just because UGA "publicizes" their discipline policy, it doesn't mean their arrests seem more high profile.
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Secondly, Richt believes that his players live with consequences for their actions in order to produce better men that do not revert back to criminal behavior later in life
That's fine by me
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:18 am to CockInYourEar
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"It's evidence that we discipline our players. It's evidence there's accountability. ... Sometimes when you make part of your discipline playing time, it becomes a very public thing. Some of your dirty laundry gets out there in public. I'm willing to take that risk if the process will help these guys grow into men. If we ignore stuff they do and act like it didn't happen and sweep it under the rug like the other guys, let them get away with it or whatever, what are we teaching? We are setting them up for failure down the road."
When you're right you're right.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:18 am to JStanDawgFan
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Nope. That is a good point as well. I think that it all is a catch 22. Richt never singled out a school, but precedent is set. There is an LSU player that is still on his team for identical charges that were later dropped, to Johnathan Taylor. If his charges get dropped as well, would you think better of Richt if Taylor was allowed back on the team?
I think that's maybe one of the things he was referring to.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:20 am to JStanDawgFan
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Nope. That is a good point as well. I think that it all is a catch 22. Richt never singled out a school, but precedent is set. There is an LSU player that is still on his team for identical charges that were later dropped, to Johnathan Taylor. If his charges get dropped as well, would you think better of Richt if Taylor was allowed back on the team?
That LSU player was suspended until those charges were dropped, and there's a reason they were reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor. If the charges on Taylor get reduced wouldn't it seem that Richt overreacted by kicking him off? I have no problem with miles actually getting all the facts before making a decision like that.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 8:22 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:20 am to VFL1800FPD
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Of course you find a way to fap to Athens on a completely unrelated topic. No other SEC schools have bar scenes that attract football players to them i guess. And Richt has the same amount of control as every other coach does during the offseason.
They are related because the Athens bar scene is so crazy even on weeknights, cops have been on high alert for years and don't really have a tolerance for underage drinking or anything like that. It's a joke amongst students that if you don't get arrested at least once in 4 years you're doing it wrong.
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