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Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:33 pm to CrimsonBoz
Just because you put a bunch of names up there is that suppose to mean something.
You listed seven players. All seven pretty much played in every game and yet FOUR of them posted FEWER than 20 tackles for the season. Very impressive.
For a fanbase than proclaims their second "D" gets starters minutes and there is no droppoff when they are on the field. Numbers don't support that claim.
You listed seven players. All seven pretty much played in every game and yet FOUR of them posted FEWER than 20 tackles for the season. Very impressive.
For a fanbase than proclaims their second "D" gets starters minutes and there is no droppoff when they are on the field. Numbers don't support that claim.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:12 pm to 167back
Question. When was the last time Bama didn't lead the sec in total defense? Just curious.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:29 pm to 167back
Sorry dude but I think you are really reaching by trying to compare LSU's defense with Bama's defense. What have you heard more about last year LSU's front seven or Bamas front seven. You guys have a good defense but how can you compare it to a team that had more sacks and Int's isnt that the only thing that matters more than yardage.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:36 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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meh Tigers win easily.
no doubt.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:44 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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meh Tigers win easily.
no doubt.
Did you just respond to your own comment? Or did you forget to change alters before you responded?
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:44 pm to bamaqna
Reference my other post showing the actual per game numbers for returning players in regards to sacks, TFL, ints and passes defended. They are almost identical.
As for just the total end of year numbers you do remember that bama played 25% more games than LSU.
Again my point was about the six common SEC opponents when comparing the two defenses in '15.
What does all those great numbers in '15 mean for '16 considering that most of the bama players that did the heavy lifting are no longer in the program.
As for just the total end of year numbers you do remember that bama played 25% more games than LSU.
Again my point was about the six common SEC opponents when comparing the two defenses in '15.
What does all those great numbers in '15 mean for '16 considering that most of the bama players that did the heavy lifting are no longer in the program.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:46 pm to 1BamaRTR
Dont worry about me and what I do, bitch.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 11:26 pm to bamaqna
So, you would take a game where you had four sacks, three ints and still gave up 500 yards of "O".
VS
A game where your "D" had zero sacks and picks but, held opponent to under 250 yards??????
VS
A game where your "D" had zero sacks and picks but, held opponent to under 250 yards??????
Posted on 6/25/16 at 11:37 pm to bamaqna
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Sorry dude but I think you are really reaching by trying to compare LSU's defense with Bama's defense. What have you heard more about last year LSU's front seven or Bamas front seven.
Stop trying to argue it's pointless. No matter what you say he'll still think LSU had a similar defense last year even though many on here don't agree.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 11:56 pm to 167back
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Reference my other post showing the actual per game numbers for returning players in regards to sacks, TFL, ints and passes defended. They are almost identical.
quote:Truly retarded. Especially when most, if not all, of those numbers still favor Alabama.
What does all those great numbers in '15 mean for '16 considering that most of the bama players that did the heavy lifting are no longer in the program.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:32 am to JuiceTerry
Right because 2.5 sacks per game is so much more than 2.25 a game. What that comes out to three more sacks over a 12 game schedule?
same thing with TFL. 4.0 VS 3.8.
LSU does lead in passes defended returning 3.3 per game to 2.9 for bama. tide pass defense numbers could be a little lower though due to a couple of DBs that saw action last year transferring out.
My guess is that the bama "D" had a lot more chances for sacks and passes defended. Actually they had almost 100 more.
Considering one is the goat "D" and the other a bunch of weak arse defenders that couldn't stop anybody. At least according to this board.
You would think there would be a greater difference in the numbers. I forgot this isn't about the whole '15 defenses. It's about players returning for '16.
If you want to see a BIG gap in the returning numbers compare starts and total tackles.
same thing with TFL. 4.0 VS 3.8.
LSU does lead in passes defended returning 3.3 per game to 2.9 for bama. tide pass defense numbers could be a little lower though due to a couple of DBs that saw action last year transferring out.
My guess is that the bama "D" had a lot more chances for sacks and passes defended. Actually they had almost 100 more.
Considering one is the goat "D" and the other a bunch of weak arse defenders that couldn't stop anybody. At least according to this board.
You would think there would be a greater difference in the numbers. I forgot this isn't about the whole '15 defenses. It's about players returning for '16.
If you want to see a BIG gap in the returning numbers compare starts and total tackles.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 1:01 am to 167back
So Bama returns more numbers than LSU from a defense that was light years better? Cool. 
Posted on 6/26/16 at 1:59 am to 1BamaRTR
apparently and the thing is if he was stating that LSU had one of the top 3 defenses in the SEC then I don't think many people would argue against that, but when u try to compare it to the Bama D when many people thought it was along the same lines as the defenses back in 2011 and 2012 which in many people eyes are one of the greatest defenses in CFB history. Then how can you in all good reasoning even think that LSU is on the same level when some of the games that they lost werent even close. Posted on 6/26/16 at 7:41 am to bamaqna
Also the two leading players who had sacks are returning along with the player who had the most INT's so actually the guys who did the heavy lifting are still here
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:56 am to JuiceTerry
bama total tackles returning
DL - 105
LB - 175
total - 280
DB - 173
LSU total tackles returning
DL - 174
LB - 203
total - 377
DB - 266
sacks
bama - 2.5 per game
LSU - 2.25 per game
TFL
bama - 4.0 per game
LSU - 3.8 per game.
Ints
bama - .87 per game
LSU - .67 per game
passes defended
bama - 2.9 per game
LSU - 3.3 per game
As for the total numbers in sacks, TFL, ints and passes defended the bama "D" had just under 100 more opportunities than LSU. In regards to total tackles the bama "D" had over 150 more chances than LSU.
All those per game numbers are pretty close. Not close in total tackles returning. Really not close in returning starts. In the secondary alone LSU returns 50 starts to bama's 31.
DL - 105
LB - 175
total - 280
DB - 173
LSU total tackles returning
DL - 174
LB - 203
total - 377
DB - 266
sacks
bama - 2.5 per game
LSU - 2.25 per game
TFL
bama - 4.0 per game
LSU - 3.8 per game.
Ints
bama - .87 per game
LSU - .67 per game
passes defended
bama - 2.9 per game
LSU - 3.3 per game
As for the total numbers in sacks, TFL, ints and passes defended the bama "D" had just under 100 more opportunities than LSU. In regards to total tackles the bama "D" had over 150 more chances than LSU.
All those per game numbers are pretty close. Not close in total tackles returning. Really not close in returning starts. In the secondary alone LSU returns 50 starts to bama's 31.
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:05 am to bamaqna
The only comparison I made in regards to the two defenses as a whole was about our six common opponents. Tigers held four of the six to fewer total yards.
Everything else is about what the two teams return off those "Ds" heading into '16. The tigers do return a boat load of talent.
The last three times at bama saban returned five or fewer starters on defense, the points allowed and total defensive numbers went up. Look for history to repeat itself.
Everything else is about what the two teams return off those "Ds" heading into '16. The tigers do return a boat load of talent.
The last three times at bama saban returned five or fewer starters on defense, the points allowed and total defensive numbers went up. Look for history to repeat itself.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:08 am to 167back
Our returning starters are better than your returning starters. Our returning backups are also better than your returning starters. I know this sounds douchey but it's true slick. You don't have a NG of caliber of Daron Payne. You don't have an outside pass rusher like Tim Williams. I think I see two defenders on your team that would start at Bama. An ilb and safety. That's it.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:24 am to sunseeker
Godchaux would start on the DL. Neal and Herron would be in the rotation.
T White would start and Toliver would see a LOT of PT in the secondary. So would D Jackson (world class speed).
Remember this name, ARDEN KEY. He will be All SEC and could quite possibly lead conference in sacks.
For the record bama's defensive backups have very little production to show for their time on the field.
Hey slick any idea how many defensive plays williams actually played in last year?
T White would start and Toliver would see a LOT of PT in the secondary. So would D Jackson (world class speed).
Remember this name, ARDEN KEY. He will be All SEC and could quite possibly lead conference in sacks.
For the record bama's defensive backups have very little production to show for their time on the field.
Hey slick any idea how many defensive plays williams actually played in last year?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:41 am to 167back
Williams was the most productive football player in America last year bro. He was a situational third down specialist last year and his numbers were off the charts. His numbers will only improve after becoming the full time jack linebacker. He was unstoppable during spring ball.
Bottom line here guy is that we all know LSU will field an outstanding defense this year. It wasn't too bad last year even with Steele in charge. It's just that the Bama defense is going to be ultra-elite. Again. Jamal Adams would start on our defense and Beckwith would have a good chance to start next to Foster but other than those two all I see is talented tigers that would earn a spot in the rotation.
On top of that, our guys are much better coached and you guys are even changing philosophy this year.
Your defense will be good it just won't measure up to what Nick Saban will field. And that's ok man, very few defenses reach that level. Good luck next year man.
Bottom line here guy is that we all know LSU will field an outstanding defense this year. It wasn't too bad last year even with Steele in charge. It's just that the Bama defense is going to be ultra-elite. Again. Jamal Adams would start on our defense and Beckwith would have a good chance to start next to Foster but other than those two all I see is talented tigers that would earn a spot in the rotation.
On top of that, our guys are much better coached and you guys are even changing philosophy this year.
Your defense will be good it just won't measure up to what Nick Saban will field. And that's ok man, very few defenses reach that level. Good luck next year man.
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