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re: LSU vs Bama 2016
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:19 am to cajunbama
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:19 am to cajunbama
It's funny how all the people who talk about how bad LSU is now (easier to beat than OM, Arky, etc), will be exactly the same ones who will say LSU is stupid for considering getting rid of Les.
Which is it? If LSU isn't even 2nd in the west any more, why shouldn't they fire the coach who is the reason why?
If the coach shouldn't be fired, then that means he has done a good job, which would NOT include falling behind teams like Arky and Ole Miss.
Which is it? If LSU isn't even 2nd in the west any more, why shouldn't they fire the coach who is the reason why?
If the coach shouldn't be fired, then that means he has done a good job, which would NOT include falling behind teams like Arky and Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 9:20 am
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:43 am to SeekGreatness
LSU has got 18 returning starters and the best running back in the nation. Miles has won a NC and played for another. Yeah, getting rid of him with that kind of team coming back would have been stupid. It was actually pretty stupid to even consider it.
However if he underachieves with this team, it's probably time to make a change because the table won't be set any better in the future than it is right now.
However if he underachieves with this team, it's probably time to make a change because the table won't be set any better in the future than it is right now.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:34 am to SeekGreatness
I think most people say LSU is bad when they try to compare them to Bama, which isnt fair because no school can compare themselves to Bama. Why I believe its stupid to get rid of Les is its hard to find coaches who can atleast guarantee atleast 9 or 10 wins a year. Thats why I thought it was dumb when Georgia got rid Mark Richt, you don't just throw away coaches who can keep your program in the conversation for a conference title because coaches like that are few and far between.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:26 pm to bamaqna
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I think most people say LSU is bad when they try to compare them to Bama, which isnt fair because no school can compare themselves to Bama.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:20 pm to LSU Patrick
Same thing I said when I seen LSU play in another useless bowl game this year
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 3:23 pm to GeauxTigerNation
I'll watch it and hope it's a slobber-knocker defensive gem like the last GOTC. 
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:18 pm to JuiceTerry
garbage yardage??
One of the four teams was ole miss. So, I guess saban had in his second "D" to protect that rebel lead.
Another game was auburn. LSU beat them by over three scores. If any team gave up garbage yards VS them it was LSU.
LSU held aggies to seven points and fewer yards than the tide.
PLUS according to the tide nation it's second teamers all played starters minutes. They are all just as good as starters. No dropoff when they enter the game.
One of the four teams was ole miss. So, I guess saban had in his second "D" to protect that rebel lead.
Another game was auburn. LSU beat them by over three scores. If any team gave up garbage yards VS them it was LSU.
LSU held aggies to seven points and fewer yards than the tide.
PLUS according to the tide nation it's second teamers all played starters minutes. They are all just as good as starters. No dropoff when they enter the game.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:30 pm to JuiceTerry
These are just some of the returning numbers. See if you can tell me bama's or LSU's.
Sacks per game
2.5 VS 2.25
tackles for loss per game
4.0 VS 3.8
Ints per game
.87 VS .67
Pass breakups per game
2.0 VS 2.5
Passes defended per game
2.9 VS 3.2
As for returning players those numbers seem pretty close to me.
Sacks per game
2.5 VS 2.25
tackles for loss per game
4.0 VS 3.8
Ints per game
.87 VS .67
Pass breakups per game
2.0 VS 2.5
Passes defended per game
2.9 VS 3.2
As for returning players those numbers seem pretty close to me.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:34 pm to 167back
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OK genius splain this.
LSU and bama had SIX common opponents.
LSU held FOUR of the six to fewer yards than bama.
Points matter more than yards genius.
Bama had the no.2 scoring defense and no.3 total defense.
LSU had the no.41 (lol) scoring defense and no.25 total defense. Not to mention Bama led the SEC in sacks and INTs.
So NO LSU's defense wasn't comparable to Bama's last year and only a big LSU homer would think otherwise.
Now this year maybe be different so we'll see.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:38 pm to 1BamaRTR
After the bama game I'm a wreck. Much respeck (Birdman voice).
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:43 pm to 167back
See 1BamaRTR's post, fool.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 12:08 am to 1BamaRTR
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Points matter more than yards genius.
Bama had the no.2 scoring defense and no.3 total defense.
LSU had the no.41 (lol) scoring defense and no.25 total defense. Not to mention Bama led the SEC in sacks and INTs.
So NO LSU's defense wasn't comparable to Bama's last year and only a big LSU homer would think otherwise.
Now this year maybe be different so we'll see.
Even in areas where we weren't amazing, we still did better than LSU:
Fumbles recovered #66 Alabama #88 LSU
Passing yards allowed: #30 Alabama #65 LSU
Red Zone defense: #62 Alabama #86 LSU
And in every other statistical category:
3rd down conversion % defense: #7 Alabama vs #40 LSU
4th down conversion % defense: #13 Alabama vs #43 LSU
Defensive TDs: #8 Alabama NR LSU
First down defense: #15 Alabama #24 LSU
Rushing defense: #1 Alabama #17 LSU
Pass efficiency defense: #8 Alabama #51 LSU
INTs: #10 Alabama #78 LSU
Team Sacks: #3 Alabama #18 LSU
Team TFL: #24 Alabama #60 LSU
Turnovers Gained: #13 Alabama #91 LSU
2015 Alabama was better than LSU in all defensive categories listed on the NCAA website.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:24 pm to 1BamaRTR
yo einstien
I'm talking strictly about the six common opponents. You know the ones where we each played them. Seems like that would be a better comparison than the whole season.
In those SIX games the LSU "D" gave a good account of themselves.
Don't forget what happened in '15 doesn't guarantee anything for '16. bama loses the majority of guys that made all those plays on "D" in '15. Not saying they don't return talent. They just aren't as deep as last year, especially in the front seven.
All those sacks and ints last year. Break it down to per game for returning players. You will be surprised by how close LSU's and bama's numbers actually are.
I'm talking strictly about the six common opponents. You know the ones where we each played them. Seems like that would be a better comparison than the whole season.
In those SIX games the LSU "D" gave a good account of themselves.
Don't forget what happened in '15 doesn't guarantee anything for '16. bama loses the majority of guys that made all those plays on "D" in '15. Not saying they don't return talent. They just aren't as deep as last year, especially in the front seven.
All those sacks and ints last year. Break it down to per game for returning players. You will be surprised by how close LSU's and bama's numbers actually are.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:26 pm to chattabama
does the tide return all but three guys off the defensive roster of '15?
Posted on 6/24/16 at 2:35 pm to chattabama
OMG you guys are seriously debating last year's LSU D vs Bama's 
All you need to know: Steele's "leadership" allowed 7 teams to score 20+. This has never happened to LSU's D. Ever. Thankfully, Aranda is coming in now. The statistical differential for year one at each of his stops has been outstanding. We will at least be much improved. Maybe we will legitimately be able to have this debate after this year is done. We will see.
All you need to know: Steele's "leadership" allowed 7 teams to score 20+. This has never happened to LSU's D. Ever. Thankfully, Aranda is coming in now. The statistical differential for year one at each of his stops has been outstanding. We will at least be much improved. Maybe we will legitimately be able to have this debate after this year is done. We will see.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 2:44 pm to DaBama
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However if he underachieves with this team,
Posted on 6/24/16 at 3:01 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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LSU vs Bama
Similar talent. One coach is better than the other.
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:05 pm to 167back
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I'm talking strictly about the six common opponents.
Dude just stop you will do anything to show a shred of credibility to your team. Let pull a year or a MAGIC number of games and see if my team is better. You lost last year and the 4 before it.
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Not saying they don't return talent. They just aren't as deep as last year, especially in the front seven.
Keep thinking the defense won't be as good lol. Better Secondary, SAME EXACT OLB's, And take your pick for the middle, Allen, Hand, Frazier, Tomlinson, Payne. Oh and Foster, Evans, and Hamilton at ILB. Just stop.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:12 pm to cfish140
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The sec is theirs to lose every year until someone proves otherwise. No matter how much they've lost, how "shitty" their qb is, or how "suspect" their secondary is. It's the same song every year and they win the sec and usually the title
Front 7 recruiting, we need to catch up. we are on the right track hopefully we are close enough this year to pull it off.
There are huge bodies riding the bench at bama everyone and their mom was going all out to get. Guys that could have started almost anywhere right away
Bama averages more front 7 recruits in the composite top 100 than all but a few of the teams on their schedule have in their entire class (all positions).
That's not even including how good they have been evaluating and securing juco guys that don't get lofty rankings. Guys like reed and pettway.
This post was edited on 6/24/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:33 pm to CrimsonBoz
I'm seeing bama's defensive numbers more in line with '14 than '15.
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