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re: LSU fans: You're not worried about Coach O & his ties to the Ole Miss cheating?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:44 pm to ForeverGator
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:44 pm to ForeverGator
Oher was going to Ole Miss because that is where Sean and Leigh Ann wanted him to go. Orgeron, Nutt, Freeze, Vaught it did not matter
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:47 pm to KennesawTiger
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There is no reason, with better playcalling and QB development, that those could not have been 4 Top 10 finishes. If they were, Miles would still have a job. That's the point.
Which is why he was fired.
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Do you watch football outside of LSU? Outside of LF being Superman, we were a mess on offense the last 2 years and 4 games of 2016. It was because of Miles/Cameron outdated ideas and antiquated practice methods.
2015 we finished above bama, fsu ,and ohi state in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.. but hey dont let facts get in the way of trying to shite on lsu
We were bad on offense in 2014 because we didnt have 1 skill position player starting that had any experience and we started the 2nd most freshmen in the country.
I said miles was justly fired but that doesnt make him a shite coach. Bill Belichik has been fired. So has pete carroll. Miles was fored for not keeping lsu at standard HE SET.
And yes i watch far more football programs than you. I pay for all 22 film. Youre probably one of those fans that really believes lsu has as much talent as bama.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:47 pm to FightinTiga
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's going to do better at LSU than he did at Ole Miss
Thats not some huge accomplishment. He won 3 sec games in 3 year at ole miss.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:52 pm to ForeverGator
LSU probably has the most stringent compliance department in the country.
Orgeron doesn't need to take chances at LSU. At Ole Miss, things obviously are different.
Orgeron doesn't need to take chances at LSU. At Ole Miss, things obviously are different.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Would Ed Orgeron be in the top 10 candidates for the bama job?ohio state job? Michigan job? Fsu job? Hell no. He wouldnt be in the top 5 for the vandy job. But hey he sounds like us.
Lets say his name wasn't Orgeron and he wasn't from Louisiana. He is Larry Smith. He recruited for Miami in the glory years, and USC during their glory years. (And LSU in the middle of our glory recruiting years.) Impeccable recruiting credentials, and was a leading motivator on both staffs. But then Mr. Smith stumbled hard as the head coach of an average to below average SEC school. Since then he has interim coached at USC and LSU, and had success on the field at that level. (All be it in just a small window that is an interim coach.)
Now that coach, who already is your interim coach, comes to you and says, "I'll take next to nothing, recruit my butt off, motivate my butt off, and give our program money to hire the best coordinators in college football. I'll do everything the last staff did right and improve on their one big flaw, coordinator hires."
Is this scenario an automatic yes or no in your mind regardless of where the coach came from? If you thought its an automatic yes or no, you are biased by the way coach looks and talks one way or the other.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:53 pm to moneyg
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Orgeron doesn't need to take chances at LSU. At Ole Miss, things obviously are different.
Shhhh.
Dont let ole miss fans know that there are slutty white girls in sun dresses every where. Thats there bread and butter.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2015 we finished above bama, fsu ,and ohi state in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.. but hey dont let facts get in the way of trying to shite on lsu
Try looking up the final defensive rankings of our opponents that year. What happened against the one defense we didn't out-talent? Remind me, I have trouble remembering. I'm not shitting on LSU, I'm shitting on Miles.
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And yes i watch far more football programs than you. I pay for all 22 film.
Uh oh, badass here. If your thoughts on here are any indication, you are wasting your money.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:58 pm to Tigercat
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Lets say his name wasn't Orgeron and he wasn't from Louisiana. He is Larry Smith. He recruited for Miami in the glory years, and USC during their glory years. (And LSU in the middle of our glory recruiting years.) Impeccable recruiting credentials, and was a leading motivator on both staffs. But then Mr. Smith stumbled hard as the head coach of an average to below average SEC school. Since then he has interim coached at USC and LSU, and had success on the field at that level. (All be it in just a small window that is an interim coach.)
Now that coach, who already is your interim coach, comes to you and says, "I'll take next to nothing, recruit my butt off, motivate my butt off, and give our program money to hire the best coordinators in college football. I'll do everything the last staff did right and improve on their one big flaw, coordinator hires."
Is this scenario an automatic yes or no in your mind regardless of where the coach came from? If you thought its an automatic yes or no, you are biased by the way coach looks and talks one way or the other.
If im a top 10 program in cfb i dont hire a 55 year old career position coach THAT HAS NEVER RAN A SUCCESSFUL OFFENSE, DEFENSE , OR PROGRAM. I dont care what his accent sounds like. I wouldnt hire the most unqualified hire in big 6 history(aside from bama's sanction hire).
Derek Dooley is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Derek Mason is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Hell why didnt we hire Frank wilson if recruiting was the answer.
As lsu fans we have realized that having a great recruiter and great motivator(miles) in the talent rich sec west isnt enough. So what did we do? We hired a great recruiter and great motivator that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program in his 32 years of coaching.
There is no reasoning behind this bullshite hire. I hope Ed orgeron has the best tenure in lsu history but that still wouldnt justify our clown of an ad going from Tom Herman and Jimbo Fisher to ed orgeron.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:01 pm to joshua2571
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I heard Ole Miss could put LSU in the mix cause LSU' s recruiting of Leo Lewis
shite, I guess he won't ever play for us then
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:02 pm to KennesawTiger
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Try looking up the final defensive rankings of our opponents that year. What happened against the one defense we didn't out-talent? Remind me, I have trouble remembering. I'm not shitting on LSU, I'm shitting on Miles.
Ha ha. I have.
We played the 6th best schedule and far better defenses than Fsu and ohi state.
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What happened against the one defense we didn't out-talent
Do you watch football? Offenses struggle against better defenses. Do you watch other programs besides lsu?
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. I'm not shitting on LSU, I'm shitting on Miles.
Lol shitting on our 2015 offense is shitting on lsu.
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h oh, badass here. If your thoughts on here are any indication, you are wasting your money.
You asked little guy. Im sorry facts dont back up your football ignorant opinions.
Like i said, youre probably one of those lsu posters that think the only thing standing between lsu and bama was les miles. You probably spout bullshite about how lsu is just as talented as bama.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:04 pm to ForeverGator
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you guys are just ok with hiring the coach who pretty much ruined Ole Miss
Icing on the cake
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:05 pm to Tigercat
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improve on their one big flaw, coordinator hires."
Les made top notch DC hires, minus the Kevin Steele experiment, which the truth came out about when Aranda was hired. Crowton was a very hot commodity when he was hired, and his offense was good in 07, but he got too pretty(plus Perrilloux threw a wrench in the plans). Kragthorpe was a damn good hire also, but his illness couldn't be predicted. Now, for Cam. Go look at Cam's resume and tell me, if actually given full range to run his O, that he wouldn't have produced results. The fact is, Les had his hands all over play calling on offense, and it caused his downfall.
O didn't hire Aranda, let's not forget that. And don't give me the "O locked him into an extension!!!" Aranda knows what he has at LSU, and isn't leaving unless the right HC or NFL DC job comes along. We don't know how Canada will do in the SEC yet, but I do have high hopes for him.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:07 pm to BayouBengals18
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Now, for Cam. Go look at Cam's resume and tell me, if actually given full range to run his O, that he wouldn't have produced result
Miles refusal to allow our qbs to throw over the middle severely handicapped our offense. He was never the same after 2008 unless he truly trusted the qbs(2011 &2013)
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Link me to where I've ever posted anything resembling your ridiculous assertions.
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:10 pm to ForeverGator
Then why are you guys all so concerned all of a sudden?? Lol I think it's hilarious! Keep on making excuses for your insecurities! So insecure and it's so obvious.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Miles refusal to allow our qbs to throw over the middle severely handicapped our offense.
He killed our QB's mentally. He discouraged them from making the most of their athletic abilities. I've heard many many things that makes me wonder how we still recruited at the level we did...
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Miles sucked guy get over it... You must be related or you two are very close. He sucks bro and O will prove to be a much better coach as early as next year and it won't really be close.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If im a top 10 program in cfb i dont hire a 55 year old career position coach THAT HAS NEVER RAN A SUCCESSFUL OFFENSE, DEFENSE , OR PROGRAM. I dont care what his accent sounds like. I wouldnt hire the most unqualified hire in big 6 history(aside from bama's sanction hire). Derek Dooley is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Derek Mason is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Hell why didnt we hire Frank wilson if recruiting was the answer.
What is the difference between Clemson hiring Swinney and Coach O being hired? How can you look at Swinney's hiring and success, and act like Coach O's hiring is clearly the worst hire in recent memory, when O had more coaching experience at big programs than Swinney? Swinney's pre-HC experience level can't touch O's experience at USC and Miami.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:16 pm to BayouBengal99
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O will prove to be a much better coach as early as next year and it won't really be close.
I've said before I wanted Les gone years before it finally happened.
So now that we got that out of the way, what the ever living frick makes you think O will be a "much better coach than Miles, and prove it by next year?" O has done nothing to show he will do as much, or even more, winning than Les did while he was here. This is just absurd.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:19 pm to Tigercat
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What is the difference between Clemson hiring Swinney and Coach O being hired?
Umm well... The simple fact that when Dabo was hired, Clemson wasn't nearly the power LSU is right now. Dabo built that program. O hasn't built shite at LSU, and will feed off of what Dinardo, Saban and Miles built. Dabo was also in his 30's, not his mid 50's having been a DL coach his entire career.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 3:20 pm
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