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LSU fans, tell me about what you return next year

Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:23 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:23 pm
Obviously a lot of Juniors are undecided, but what do you for sure return, and what do most of you think you bring back?

Anthony at QB is obvious, and I believe you return at LEAST 4/5 on the OL. What about everywhere else? I won't have much time for conversation, but I'll try to read a little bit if I get a few minutes.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:27 pm to
Alabama is the greatest

There, we've told you what you wanted to hear
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by MetArl15
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:34 pm to
Landry and Beckham are almost certainly gone at WR. Hill is gone too. Collins probably leaning towards the draft as well. That should be the losses on offense. Jennings will be QB and Fournette (provided he signs with LSU) will likely be the starter at RB, though who can say how he'll translate to college. McGee is back at RB and he showed talent this year. Dural is the only WR for sure to get playing time, but should have a great crop coming in that may be able to play right away. OL should be a strength and certainly improved.

On D, hard to say, but Ferguson and Johnson may both leave, leaving issues with proven depth at DT. Rasco, Hunter and Allen should be back at DE. LB is hard to figure. Beckwith may factor in, and some Freshmen may get time as it was a trouble spot this year. CB should be a strength with White and Robinson back for sure. Safety has holes with Loston leaving and Thompson coming off an injury. Again, hopefully some freshmen contribute, especially if we sign Adams. Martin will provide depth and hopefully Jefferson (Jordan's brother) develops.

Delahoussaye is back at kicker. Keehn at punter was shaky this year but he returns and hopefully improves.

As with anyone, season depends on QB play and underclassmen development. Should have a great recruiting class this year, so the latter will have talent, albeit inexperienced talent subject to SEC growing pains.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:35 pm to
Db's will be a lot better. D Ends will be a lot better. DT is still a major question mark.

Love Magee at RB and think he is a stud, problem is we are lacking at depth with only him and Hilliard.

OL will probably be the best in the country or up there with the best. Which we might not need if AJ can use his legs. But definitely returning 4/5 starters possibly 5/5 of a group that played well most of the year.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:36 pm to
No way Fournette starts. A lot more to being a great Rb than running the ball. Magee proved this year he can be an every down back.
Posted by MetArl15
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:37 pm to
Fournette may not start, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. RB is an easy position to play as a Freshman, especially when Mcgee is the only other viable option. Either way, Fournette will receive serious carries next year if he stays injury free. It's a necessity essentially.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:44 pm to
This year IMO, Magee was better than Hill. Magee was more explosive and seemed to run with a chip on his shoulder.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

No way Fournette starts. A lot more to being a great Rb than running the ball. Magee proved this year he can be an every down back.


LF will start. Dude is an insane talent and Miles has cleared the depth chart like Moses for him

Magee will be a great change of pace back
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:52 pm to
I just don't see it with blitz pickups and learning the offense. I can see him getting 10 -15 carries a game but not starting early in the season.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

This year IMO, Magee was better than Hill


Hill rushed for right at 1200 yards with an average of 6.8yds per carry and had 14 TD's. What fricking rock do you live under?

ETA: He did that while missing the opening game, and sharing carries in every other game with Magee, Blue, and Hilliard
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:07 pm to
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Landry and Beckham are almost certainly gone at WR. Hill is gone too. Collins probably leaning towards the draft as well. That should be the losses on offense. Jennings will be QB and Fournette (provided he signs with LSU) will likely be the starter at RB, though who can say how he'll translate to college. McGee is back at RB and he showed talent this year. Dural is the only WR for sure to get playing time, but should have a great crop coming in that may be able to play right away. OL should be a strength and certainly improved.


WR: Dural will undoubtedly be the #1 guy at camp - should Beckham and Landry both declare (which they more than likely will). After that, the only other returning receiver that has registered a catch is Quantavious Leslie, who was a bit of a disappointment this year coming out of JUCO. Guys like John Diarse, Kevin Spears, and Avery Peterson (Patrick's brother) all have the opportunity to really step up into a playmaker role. The Tigers will also have to rely on incoming freshmen at the wideout position, such as Trey Quinn or - if they sign - Speedy Noil and Malachi Dupre. These guys assuredly possess the talent, they will just need to get comfortable in the offense and get some game experience.

TE: All of LSU's TEs return. None had seasons worth mentioning this year, although current freshman DeSean Smith could begin to distance himself from the pack in the offseason. Guys like Dillon Gordon and Logan Stokes are primarily blockers, while Travis Dickson is mainly a receiving target (who didn't get many chances this year). Look out for incoming freshman Jacory Washington as well. He's in the same mold as OJ Howard and can really create nightmares for defensive coordinators.

OL: LT La'el Collins is likely heading for the NFL, but Vadal Alexander, Elliot Porter, Trai Turner, and Jerald Hawkins should all return, which is huge. Primary backups Evan Washington and Ethan Pocic also come back, as does another future contributor in Josh Boutte. The line should definitely see improvements in 2014.

QB: Jennings no doubt has the talent, it's just a matter of getting experience under his belt. We will learn a lot about his ability to learn quickly in this bowl game, although at the same time, it is important to keep in mind that he is still only a true freshman, and mistakes will be made.

RB: Blue is gone and I would be surprised if Hill returned next season. There is also talk of Hilliard maybe bolting for the league, although those rumors have died down. Magee should come back, and if he does, he will certainly be the #1 RB in next year's offense. We will really depend on newcomers like Darrell Williams and Fournette to contribute early and often, to take the load off Magee and Hilliard. If Magee continues his current form, the running game will seamlessly transition into next season.

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On D, hard to say, but Ferguson and Johnson may both leave, leaving issues with proven depth at DT. Rasco, Hunter and Allen should be back at DE. LB is hard to figure. Beckwith may factor in, and some Freshmen may get time as it was a trouble spot this year. CB should be a strength with White and Robinson back for sure. Safety has holes with Loston leaving and Thompson coming off an injury. Again, hopefully some freshmen contribute, especially if we sign Adams. Martin will provide depth and hopefully Jefferson (Jordan's brother) develops.


DL: All of the DEs should be back in 2014, which is crucial, given that both of our starting DTs may declare for the draft. Rasco and Hunter seem to have secured their roles on the outside. Jordan Allen, Kendall Beckwith, Lewis Neal, Frank Herron, Tashawn Bower, and MJ Patterson should all come in relief. As for Freak and Ego's likely replacements, Christian Lacouture separated himself as the third DT this season as a true freshman; guys like Quentin Thomas and Mickey Johnson will surely feel pressure from guys like Greg Gilmore, Maquedius Bain, and some of the incoming freshman in locking down the other DT spot. In short, DE will be a strength while DT will be a weakness (if both Freak and Ego leave).

LB: Everyone returns but Barrow and Tahj Jones (who was a non-factor the past two seasons). At this point, it appears as though Debo Jones (who has shown promise in the last two seasons) will replace Barrow on the outside, while Kwon Alexander returns on the other side. Welter (please God no) and Lamar Louis are back in the middle as well. Additionally, true freshman Clifton Garrett could be in the mix for some playing time.

DB: Other than Loston graduating, the 2014 defensive backfield should see vast improvements. Tre'Davious White, Rashard Robinson, Dwayne Thomas, and Jalen Mills all return at corner, and guys like Ronald Martin, Rickey Jefferson, and Corey Thompson all return at safety. Couple these returning players with the incoming haul of freshmen DBs, and offensive coordinators will not look forward to throwing the ball on LSU.
Posted by Othello
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:54 pm to
He also had a shitload more carries dumbass. I'm not talking about stats, I'm talking about who looked like a better back.

Magee was running all over Bama so what does lLes do he doesn't give him any second half carries and Bill was COMPLETELY shut down.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:02 pm to
Very nice summary brewhan.
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:14 pm to
We gonna be stacked.

Sorry
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7953 posts
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:26 pm to
I'm not taking anything away from Magee, he's a great back. But shite man, anyone who knows ANYTHING about football will tell you that Hill is the best back on that team, period. It's not even close, dumbass...
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:54 pm to
Good breakdown. I appreciate it.

In short, I thinks it's more likely that we will be better then last year then not.

Our defense overall will be better. Our offense should keep the pace with Cameron at the helm for a second year. Should be a fun season with a better schedule.
Posted by daBIGKAHUNA
Charlotte NC
Member since Nov 2013
82 posts
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:19 pm to
Has anyone heard how Rettig's progress is coming along? Kid was highly touted coming in and has a big time arm. I was thinking he would have made a push by now.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 12/20/13 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Has anyone heard how Rettig's progress is coming along? Kid was highly touted coming in and has a big time arm. I was thinking he would have made a push by now.


He was highly touted but a work in progress/developmental QB.

Looked pretty bad in the Spring game/practices by all accounts and Jennings is far ahead of him at this point. Would need to have a pretty big turn around to see the field during his career, which is entirely possible.
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