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re: Looking forward: UF @ Texas A&M
Posted on 9/2/12 at 12:57 pm to G8RnGA
Posted on 9/2/12 at 12:57 pm to G8RnGA
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A&M will win by at least 2 TDs. UF, for the 3rd year in a row has no discipline (penalties) and no offense. Our defense that was supposed to be all world looked like they took a bunch of ambien prior to kick off.
I DVRd the game, but I just erased it. Watching us once is hard enough. My expectations for this year were fairly low,as I was hoping for an 8-4 type year. I just wanted to see a sign of life from our offense, strength on the LOS, and crisper cleaner play without penalties every other play. I saw none of that.
We suck. Like the Brad Paisley "Celebrity" video where William Shatner tells Brad that his favorite part of the song was the end so it will be with this years Gators. My favorite part will probably be the end of the season, you know, when we stop playing football.
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Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:00 pm to lightbulbz
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No fricking clue how it will turn out. If you ask me, I think we shite the bed again, but only because that's the A&M I know and love.
One thing that was interesting to me last night, however, was the fact that Texas State dominated UH. Was it all Keenum last year, or was Sumlin a miracle worker? I have nothing other than that to work with, so any prognostications by me would be coming straight out of my arse. It'll be a good time though.
I'm sure Sumlin is a good coach, but remember they tanked a couple of years ago (09 or 2010) when Keenum missed most of the season.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:23 pm to USMC Gators
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I'm sure Sumlin is a good coach, but remember they tanked a couple of years ago (09 or 2010) when Keenum missed most of the season.
Wasn't just Keenum. Starter, backup, and 3rd string were ALL out for the year.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Staff College Lobotomy,
Don't give folks that level of factual detail--they don't want to handle it and disrupt their internal narrative.
Don't give folks that level of factual detail--they don't want to handle it and disrupt their internal narrative.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:26 pm to reel_gator8
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Texas A&M will NOT be able to run the ball against us next Saturday and have much success.
Texas A&M hasn't had an opponent shut down (or even slow) the rushing attack since Missouri 2010 (the last game before Jake Matthews became a starter) and that's because Sherman didn't run the ball that game.
You forget that there are only two offensive lines better in college football than A&M's line...and one of them is Alabama.
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Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:27 pm to boXerrumble
Our defense is really really really bad this year. If the Okie State game last year was any indicator, we won't really have a home field advantage in early September for a 2:30 game.
I think Florida wins in a blowout. Johnny Football is going to have a welcome to the SEC type of game.
I think Florida wins in a blowout. Johnny Football is going to have a welcome to the SEC type of game.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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there are only two offensive lines better in college football than A&M's line...and one of them is Alabama.
Thats a bold statement, if ur oline is that good, u might finish 3rd best team in SEC
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Our defense is really really really bad this year. If the Okie State game last year was any indicator, we won't really have a home field advantage in early September for a 2:30 game.
Are you really comparing OSU's offense to UF's offense?
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:52 pm to Gatoreng5
Its amazing to me all the assumptions people are making about our team, defense, offensive style, etc. without seeing a game (especially Aggies).
1) Our defense was not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. When you adjust for the amount of snaps we saw, they were average. That was against some of the best offenses in the country. They will not be seeing the same level of offenses this season, esp not with UF.
2) I very seriously doubt you are going to see the air raid. Look at Dana Holgerson yesterday. Nearly 50/50 run to pass with over 300 yards on the ground. If the gators are assuming we are going to air it out with a RS Fr quarterback, they are in for a rude awakening. We are going to run the ball, and run the ball a lot. We will see how effective it is against Florida, but we are not deficient in talent in the run game.
3) Sure, A&M choked away too many games last season. That is why we fired Mike Sherman. Assuming we will do the same under Sumlin is premature.
4) I think UF is going to have a real issue with our pace. Your defense looked gassed at times and we are going to be much faster than BG. UF offense is much slower pace and that is what your defense is used to seeing. I doubt your scout team can come anywhere close to replicating it either. Its insanely fast but we shall see how much of an advantage that can be.
At this point, I think both teams have a pretty equal shot at winning. Ironing out the wrinkles against UF to start the season is not ideal and UF showed they have some serious issues on offense. A&M was top 20 in run defense last year (I believe) so if we stop Gilislee (sp?) and Brown, we have a great shot.
1) Our defense was not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. When you adjust for the amount of snaps we saw, they were average. That was against some of the best offenses in the country. They will not be seeing the same level of offenses this season, esp not with UF.
2) I very seriously doubt you are going to see the air raid. Look at Dana Holgerson yesterday. Nearly 50/50 run to pass with over 300 yards on the ground. If the gators are assuming we are going to air it out with a RS Fr quarterback, they are in for a rude awakening. We are going to run the ball, and run the ball a lot. We will see how effective it is against Florida, but we are not deficient in talent in the run game.
3) Sure, A&M choked away too many games last season. That is why we fired Mike Sherman. Assuming we will do the same under Sumlin is premature.
4) I think UF is going to have a real issue with our pace. Your defense looked gassed at times and we are going to be much faster than BG. UF offense is much slower pace and that is what your defense is used to seeing. I doubt your scout team can come anywhere close to replicating it either. Its insanely fast but we shall see how much of an advantage that can be.
At this point, I think both teams have a pretty equal shot at winning. Ironing out the wrinkles against UF to start the season is not ideal and UF showed they have some serious issues on offense. A&M was top 20 in run defense last year (I believe) so if we stop Gilislee (sp?) and Brown, we have a great shot.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:52 pm to Gatoreng5
Luke Joekel has been listed as the best LT in the country in most lists. Jake Matthews is consistently listed as a Top 10 OT and is a run blocking machine. Jarvis Harrison is a monster Guard that will likely be a 1st Round Draft Pick. Four of 5 starters return and there is excellent depth. It's a stacked OL that has given up very, very few sacks the last 2 years in spite of an offense that throws the ball a lot.
I also don't see how our defense is going to be so terrible. I watched them in both scrimmages. The weakness is depth but the 1st Team is very solid. Our best 2 pass rushers return from a D that led College Football in Sacks. The DB's are young but very fast and very physical. Devante Harris is a true fish DB for certain but he is the fastest player on a very fast team and he is the best pure cover corner at A&M coming in since at least Sammy Davis. Deshazor Everett is a beast. He is fast and physical and loves to hit. The DL is the weak spot but it isn't terrible, it's just not deep. Sean Porter is Pre Season All SEC and deservedly so at LB, he can rush and defend the pass. It's true that A&M lost a lot of starters off this team from last year but none of them are likely to make an NFL team, the guys coming up are younger but they are more athletic.
I also don't see how our defense is going to be so terrible. I watched them in both scrimmages. The weakness is depth but the 1st Team is very solid. Our best 2 pass rushers return from a D that led College Football in Sacks. The DB's are young but very fast and very physical. Devante Harris is a true fish DB for certain but he is the fastest player on a very fast team and he is the best pure cover corner at A&M coming in since at least Sammy Davis. Deshazor Everett is a beast. He is fast and physical and loves to hit. The DL is the weak spot but it isn't terrible, it's just not deep. Sean Porter is Pre Season All SEC and deservedly so at LB, he can rush and defend the pass. It's true that A&M lost a lot of starters off this team from last year but none of them are likely to make an NFL team, the guys coming up are younger but they are more athletic.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:57 pm to aggressor
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It's true that A&M lost a lot of starters off this team from last year but none of them are likely to make an NFL team
Uhhhh
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:57 pm to TeLeFaWx
OSU had the #3 team in the country last year and if they didn't fall asleep at Iowa State they would have played LSU for the NC. They were absolutely stacked and had the best offense in the country. The home field did help us in that game, unfortunately OSU was better prepared than we were and still we lost the game by 1 point.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:58 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I meant to say Defensive starters.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:00 pm to NonregAg09
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Are you really comparing OSU's offense to UF's offense?
Absolutely not. I'm just using last years game as an example of how the 12th Man is not anywhere near as intimidating and awe inspiring when it is early September for a 2:30 game.
Compounded on top of that, as a completely separate point, our defense is incredibly bad. I don't think Snyder is a good defensive coordinator. Maybe against more prototype SEC offenses, we will have a better identity, but our schemes look underwhelming. Sumlin should have kept DeRuyter.
As another completely separate point, I think Johnny Football struggles mightily. He might be great one day, but I haven't seen anything from him that doesn't worry me.
Regardless, I will be there. Got my over priced tickets, a new gameday polo, and an unquenchable thirst for beer and Florida women.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:00 pm to aggressor
Ah okay. I believe T Fred made the final cut in Pittsburgh but you're right that nobody we lost off the defense was what you would consider a huge loss. Pass defense doesn't worry me at all against UF. Run defense does though.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Sumlin should have kept DeRuyter.
He got offered a HC job, I seriously doubt he would have stayed. Also DeRuyter's sell out blitzes lost their luster when Von left.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:02 pm to aggressor
I surely look forward to watching this game. There are a lot of unknowns on both sides. I think UF had a typical 1st game against a good BG team. I think A&M is at a big disadvantage by not playing the LaTech game. One of the better games next week to watch.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:11 pm to gthusl
If you want to watch alot of herp derp, then this is one of the best games to watch for sure next week
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:12 pm to aggressor
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Luke Joekel has been listed as the best LT in the country in most lists. Jake Matthews is consistently listed as a Top 10 OT and is a run blocking machine. Jarvis Harrison is a monster Guard that will likely be a 1st Round Draft Pick. Four of 5 starters return and there is excellent depth. It's a stacked OL that has given up very, very few sacks the last 2 years in spite of an offense that throws the ball a lot.
Well, Matthews struggles more against the power rush than he does a speed ruch, so he is actually a pass blocking tackle that will probably get moved over at the next level. Run blocking is his weakness. Jarvis Harrison is our worst offensive lineman, Ced O is a way better guard, but is a more natural tackle and will move there before he graduates. But as a whole, yes it is a very good offensive line. I don't think the Kliff Kingsbury wide split zone blocking is going to utilize it to its full potential, but we will see.
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I also don't see how our defense is going to be so terrible. I watched them in both scrimmages. The weakness is depth but the 1st Team is very solid. Our best 2 pass rushers return from a D that led College Football in Sacks.
It is going to be terrible because it is bad. Our two best pass rushers return in a system that has them designed to sack way less. Moving from a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 end and OLB will naturally give you less sacks. Sean Porter's numbers are going to drop like crazy, even though he has probably improved as a player. In DeRuyter's defense the ends and tackle freed up pass rushers, in Snyder's defense, everyone acts as a pass rusher. It just isn't the same.
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Devante Harris is a true fish DB for certain but he is the fastest player on a very fast team and he is the best pure cover corner at A&M coming in since at least Sammy Davis.
He's fast, but he is about 160 pounds, and bound to make mistakes. I don't see why anyone would be excited about an undersized true fish at corner, regardless of how fast he is.
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Deshazor Everett is a beast. He is fast and physical and loves to hit.
Average. Not bad, but certainly not great. He wouldn't start for a lot of SEC teams.
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The DL is the weak spot but it isn't terrible, it's just not deep. Sean Porter is Pre Season All SEC and deservedly so at LB, he can rush and defend the pass.
Sean Porter is great, and a dominant player with NFL written all over him, but he won't be called to utilize his strengths. Already hit on this.
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It's true that A&M lost a lot of starters off this team from last year but none of them are likely to make an NFL team, the guys coming up are younger but they are more athletic.
Dear Lord, you have drank the kool-aid.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:15 pm to aggressor
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OSU had the #3 team in the country last year and if they didn't fall asleep at Iowa State they would have played LSU for the NC. They were absolutely stacked and had the best offense in the country. The home field did help us in that game, unfortunately OSU was better prepared than we were and still we lost the game by 1 point.
Doesn't come close to describing how close that game was. We were dominated in the turnover margin, even though Blackmon inexplicably fumbled the ball in to the endzone, and they took a safety to chew the clock. If you're honestly someone that thought Okie State was only 1 point better than us, you are a lost cause.
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