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re: Looking for a true objective analysis (A&M at South Carolina)
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:36 am to Mohican
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:36 am to Mohican
Clemson's OC Chad Morris develops gameplans and evaluates performance based on stats, one of which is the # of plays per game. I think this drives Spurrier nuts, so he purposely likes to grind it out against them once we have the lead because Morris can't adapt, and their players only know the system, which leads them to get frustrated and careless. Otherwise, if the offense is working, Spurrier wants to score as quickly as possible.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:41 am to CockInYourEar
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They've given them out for years, but we also don't put them on a pedestal of being a tradition. However, we do recognize their vast importance, as they are one of the most useful things an interstellar hitchhiker can have.
We have the towels, we wave the towels during cheers, but there's no rule on their usage, so maybe we need more practice. If only we could figure out how to towel practice....
Thanks for the semi-serious answer
For the record, there's no rule on when to wave the 12th Man towels, nor do we use them during yells. They became popular with the advent of our all-walkon 12th Man Kickoff Team back in the day and have more or less stuck around since.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:11 pm to Tridentds
quote:He may be average in size but he plays like a big receiver does, he really came into his own late in the year, if i remember correctly he was suspended for four games early.
Not that it matters but Roland is only 175 pounds so I am not sure what big and strong means to you
quote:Well it's not my fault that you think Dylan Thompson is inexperienced he's only a 5th year senior who knows the playbook front to back has actual in game experience(unlike our competitor). Dylan has enough good players around him to help him play good in Connors absence. Shaw got sacked a bunch last year because he moved around and didn't stay in the pocket, Dylan won't do that quite as much, so he will have more time to go through his reads and pick a receiver. Honestly I think our offensive numbers improve, I know Dylan isn't a world beater qb by any means, but to call him inexperienced is laughable at best.
My bad. I didn't realize the Browns loaned Connor Shaw to SC this week.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:17 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
1. A&M D-line vs USC running game
USC secondary vs A&M passing game
2. Ball control on offense, pass rush on defense
3. Sustain short control passing game offense to
keep A&M defense off the field and fresh.
4. USC 31 A&M 24
USC secondary vs A&M passing game
2. Ball control on offense, pass rush on defense
3. Sustain short control passing game offense to
keep A&M defense off the field and fresh.
4. USC 31 A&M 24
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:21 pm to GarnetHeart
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Honestly I think our offensive numbers improve, I know Dylan isn't a world beater qb by any means, but to call him inexperienced is laughable at best.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Looking for a true objective analysis (A&M at South Carolina)
USCe is favored by 10.5 so historically that's a better than 70% chance of winning.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:56 pm to GarnetHeart
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Well it's not my fault that you think Dylan Thompson is inexperienced he's only a 5th year senior who knows the playbook front to back has actual in game experience(unlike our competitor)
So you're basically describing Matt Joeckel if he had stayed at A&M.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:56 pm to ChemE in the OP
Which is a meaningless statistic.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:02 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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So you're basically describing Matt Joeckel if he had stayed at A&M.
Depends, how many ranked teams did Joeckel beat? Dylan has beaten 3.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:03 pm to wdhalgren
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ome seasons he holds back for an weak opening opponent and plans ahead for Georgia, but don't think he'll do that this year this unless he has a big lead.
Since 2008, USC has opened with:
NC State (08)
NC State (09)
Southern Miss (10, supposed to be UNC who backed out to play LSU)
ECU (11)
Vandy (12)
UNC (13)
You can say a lot of shite about USC, but a weak opening game is not applicable.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:08 pm to RoyalAir
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Southern Miss (10, supposed to be UNC who backed out to play LSU)
That was supposed to be Southern Miss's golden team too. Coach Fedora (now at UNC) was there and they were supposed to have this great offense. That Southern Miss team went 8-5 that season, after we throttled them 41-13 in the Opener.
That same Southern Miss team went on to beat some lame Houston team in 2010, 59-41.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:09 pm to jackmanusc
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1. How do both offenses look early. Aggie breaking in new starter on the road. SC has started slow in past home openers. However with a good running game and o line I think SC is less likely to struggle especially since it is at home.
Look to see whose defense steps up. A&M was a dumpster fire last year and SC lost some key defensive linemen. Linebackers will be a strength. Secondary will be thin.
SC wins if they control the clock and keep a&m defense on the field. Also look for a few picks by the linebackers to give them short field position.
A&M wins if our offense turns the ball over multiple times and their Qb and receivers exploit the inexperience at corner.
I predict we win 28-14. Expect a heavy dose of mike Davis with some play action mixed in
I don't think either defense steps up, but I do think USCe has a better bad defense in this game. I do think A&M gets more than 14, but I think you do too.
37-24 in a game that feels more like 55-24.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:11 pm to RoyalAir
Genuinely, and y'all can bump this when we lose, I think were way underrated going into this year and SC is way overrated. I don't neccessarily think that means we win the first one, but I think I'll get to bump my fair share of threads b4 the year is over.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:12 pm to Nguyening
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Genuinely, and y'all can bump this when we lose, I think were way underrated going into this year and SC is way overrated. I don't neccessarily think that means we win the first one, but I think I'll get to bump my fair share of threads b4 the year is over.
So if I were to say 8-4 would be a GREAT year for A&M, you'd say?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:25 pm to Pettifogger
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So if I were to say 8-4 would be a GREAT year for A&M, you'd say
You're one of the most reasonable posters on the rant. I don't think that's a GREAT year though. I think that's a good year. 9+ wins would be great this year. 6 or less and it's bad.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Random question, are towels a tradition for y'all like they are for us Aggies? We have the 12th Man towels, but I've seen several crowd shots of the WBS crowd sporting them as well. Just curious as to the origins/prevalence of the tradition for y'all.
Its a recent tradition that started in 08 against LSU I believe. In 09 there were a lot of different things handed out to the student section including foam fingers against Ole Miss and car flags against UF. I've got them in a box somewhere.
Towels were handed out for the Clemson game in 09 and have been a staple since. There are two guys that claim they had a deal with the university to provide the towels ("Cocky Cloths" iirc) and that the university screwed them over after the LSU game in 08 but I haven't heard about that in a long time.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:27 pm to Cockopotamus
Ah ok, interesting. Thanks for the info
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I haven't gone through the other posts yet so I apologize if some of this is repetitive.
1. Keys to the game/Key Matchups
Kenny Hill vs. the crowd. Williams-Brice is arguably the toughest venue in college football, and if fourth year starters generally struggle in that environment it will be incredibly interesting to see how someone starting his first game handles it.
South Carolina OL vs. A&M DL. South Carolina has an experienced offensive line and one of the top 3 in the SEC. A&M had the worst defensive line in the league last season and might need true freshmen Zaycoven Henderson and Myles Garrett to step up in their first career games.
2. How South Carolina can/will win.
Offense: Establish the run. Beat up an A&M defense that struggled last year and force them to stack the box if they want any chance to stop Davis and company. Use those opportunities to exploit a couple of the inexperienced secondary members with Roland and Cooper.
Defense: Put pressure on Hill and don't let him beat you with his legs. He isn't as quick as Manziel, but that doesn't mean he isn't fast and he won't go down easily. Forcing A&M to be one dimensional is going to cause a lot of problems for their chances of winning because incredible athletes like Noil and Seals-Jones won't be able to attack the weakest part of the South Carolina defense (secondary).
3. How A&M can/will win
Offense: If that offensive line is as good as they have been the last few seasons, the Aggies could easily win this game. The skill position players on this team are incredibly talented, and if Hill gets time to find the receivers the running game will open up for 3 solid running backs.
Defense: Pray, and stop the run. The A&M defense has done very little over the last couple years to make anyone believe they can make stops, but with better talent incoming they have the chance to be average, and with a Sumlin offense that is all they would need to be a top 3 team year in and year out in the SEC.
Other: Quiet the crowd by scoring early. Taking an early lead could cause Carolina fans to worry about another slow start in their first game of the season and will help Hill settle in to the game.
4. Result and margin prediction
South Carolina 48 - Texas A&M 35
1. Keys to the game/Key Matchups
Kenny Hill vs. the crowd. Williams-Brice is arguably the toughest venue in college football, and if fourth year starters generally struggle in that environment it will be incredibly interesting to see how someone starting his first game handles it.
South Carolina OL vs. A&M DL. South Carolina has an experienced offensive line and one of the top 3 in the SEC. A&M had the worst defensive line in the league last season and might need true freshmen Zaycoven Henderson and Myles Garrett to step up in their first career games.
2. How South Carolina can/will win.
Offense: Establish the run. Beat up an A&M defense that struggled last year and force them to stack the box if they want any chance to stop Davis and company. Use those opportunities to exploit a couple of the inexperienced secondary members with Roland and Cooper.
Defense: Put pressure on Hill and don't let him beat you with his legs. He isn't as quick as Manziel, but that doesn't mean he isn't fast and he won't go down easily. Forcing A&M to be one dimensional is going to cause a lot of problems for their chances of winning because incredible athletes like Noil and Seals-Jones won't be able to attack the weakest part of the South Carolina defense (secondary).
3. How A&M can/will win
Offense: If that offensive line is as good as they have been the last few seasons, the Aggies could easily win this game. The skill position players on this team are incredibly talented, and if Hill gets time to find the receivers the running game will open up for 3 solid running backs.
Defense: Pray, and stop the run. The A&M defense has done very little over the last couple years to make anyone believe they can make stops, but with better talent incoming they have the chance to be average, and with a Sumlin offense that is all they would need to be a top 3 team year in and year out in the SEC.
Other: Quiet the crowd by scoring early. Taking an early lead could cause Carolina fans to worry about another slow start in their first game of the season and will help Hill settle in to the game.
4. Result and margin prediction
South Carolina 48 - Texas A&M 35
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:32 pm to TbirdSpur2010
No problem
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:32 pm to Nguyening
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Genuinely, and y'all can bump this when we lose, I think were way underrated going into this year and SC is way overrated. I don't neccessarily think that means we win the first one, but I think I'll get to bump my fair share of threads b4 the year is over.
Honestly wondering where you would put the two in your own top 25?
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