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re: Let's settle one the the great debates in SEC football history

Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:51 pm to
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7th round pick.


Actually he was 1st round and 1st pick, but he refused to play for Tampa and went to baseball.

I know, it's no where near the same, but Bo only played 4 years.
Posted by Iron Lion
North of the river
Member since Nov 2014
11801 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:52 pm to
Dude just stop. This is Richardson's 4th team in 5 years and it's all been due to not producing on the field after being drafted 3rd overall. He's a bust.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:54 pm to
OK?

Serious question: are you retarded?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:54 pm to
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I know, it's no where near the same, but Bo only played 4 years.


You do realize Jackson suffered a career ending hip injury? He didn't get cut by any team.

To read some of the Bama posts here you'd think Richardson has had a HOF career.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:55 pm to
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your comparison makes absolutely no sense.
Point I'm making.... He is still in the NFL and could turn his career around. Until then, he can't be considered a bust. He could possibly be a bust, this is probably his last year to turn it around and prove he's not.

As to the 2011 reference, I'm referring to people who jump the gun and think they can predict the future; as in LSU fans thinking they had the 2011 NC because they beat Bama in the regular season.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:56 pm to
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Point I'm making


and doing an awful job.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:56 pm to
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He is still in the NFL and could turn his career around. Until then, he can't be considered a bust. He could possibly be a bust,


He's a bust for Cleveland and Indy, no matter what he does from here on out.

End of story

Tell me more about how Richardson ran for more yards than Jim Brown did in 1957, when the NFL season was 12 games

We'll just ignore the averaging over a full yard less per carry and the complete shitshow he followed that season with.

Richardson's best season is 3.6 ypc. That's just bad
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Trent Richardson sets another Cleveland Browns record, passes Jim Brown for most yards as a rookie


16 game season vs 12 game season. Awesome.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
Yep, beat him by a whole 8 yards despite only having 65 more carries.

He couldn't even make a roster last season
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
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He is still in the NFL and could turn his career around


I mean, he could, but right now he's hanging by a thread and it is fair to consider him a bust. The odds that he lives up to his #3 overall pick spot are slim to zero. He could become a league average back, and that'd be great for him, but there is almost no shot he ever lives up to his draft spot.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:04 pm to
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Yep, beat him by a whole 8 yards despite only having 65 more carries


Maybe with all of the movie re-makes Richardson can go into acting and be in "Ice Station Zebra."
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:07 pm to
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Trent Richardson sets another Cleveland Browns record, passes Jim Brown for most yards as a rookie

Jim Brown also played in 3 fewer games as a rookie and had 65 fewer carries. and Trent's best season was his rookie season. his production was almost cut in half the next three years combined
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:09 pm to
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Point I'm making.... He is still in the NFL and could turn his career around. Until then, he can't be considered a bust. He could possibly be a bust, this is probably his last year to turn it around and prove he's not.

as a top 5 pick, as of right now, he is a bust until he proves otherwise. at his slot, he's expected to be an all-pro caliber player, not just stick around in the league as a journeyman.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:10 pm to
Will Robinson get a second contract? There ends your debate.

As bad as Ingram has been, he did get a second contract . Trent and Russell not so much.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:12 pm to
Exactly.

For comparison, Reggie Bush is considered by many to be a bust, and he had a pretty good career. You expect a consistent pro bowler or even an all-pro from that draft slot as a RB
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:12 pm to
Ingram hasn't been bad. He made a pro bowl for goodness sake. Richardson sucks and it's his own fault. I don't get the comparison.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70897 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:13 pm to
You didn't make a point. That is literally not how anyone except you view the definition of "bust".

And I understood your example, I simply said it made no sense given the context of this weird debate.

He's a bust man, and your own fans except you admit as much. It's ok. We all counted Jamarcus as a bust while he was still playing too. You don't get to make up your own definition of a bust just because you don't want to admit a former Bama player didn't meet expectations.

Just go to google and type in "what is the definition of a bust in sports" and you will find tons of answers that you'd agree with if it weren't for this thread.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:13 pm to
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As bad as Ingram has been, he did get a second contract .


He hasn't been bad at all.

He's been pretty damn good his last 3 seasons, averaging over 4.5 ypc
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:14 pm to
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I don't get the comparison


Agree. Ingram has had a good career.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24465 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:16 pm to
And last year for the first time in his career he didn't have to come off the field on 3rd down. He seemed miles improved as a receiver
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