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Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:26 pm to chilge1
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Other than Oklahoma in 2003, every team before or after 2011 Alabama has won at least a share of their conference title.
2001 Nebraska says hello. They didn't even win their division but played Miami for all the marbles in Pasadena.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:28 pm to RollTide1987
Uh oh, better edit that.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:44 pm to GumpDyke
The accepted wisdom on this board that 2007 LSU is the "weakest" BCS champ. The strange thing is that team would smash several of the other BCS champs, in my opinion.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:46 pm to TxTiger82
It depends. They finally had time to get healthy again between the SEC and BCS CGs.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:47 pm to GumpDyke
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The Bama mulligan team?
Why would they be undeserving? They absolutely dominated LSU. Who cares if they had played previously. LSU was an undeserving runner-up after that clinic Bama put on them.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:48 pm to Korin
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They finally had time to get healthy again between the SEC and BCS CGs.
Exactly. The difference between LSU with and without a healthy Glenn Dorsey was like night and day. With Dorsey, LSU was the 100 pound gorilla with a chainsaw for a penis. Without him, LSU was an average Top 10-15 team.
So yeah, it really depends on how you look at it.
ETA: Throw in the fact that Ricky Jean-Francois was eligible for the first time all year for the BCSNCG.....that defense was sick nasty.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:51 pm to pivey14
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They absolutely dominated LSU.
That's a tautological statement. You can't judge whether a team is deserving or not by their performance in the game. You judge them based on their resume going into the game.
That said, I agree with the Bama pick for that year. They had the second best resume. Enough said.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:56 pm to TxTiger82
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100 pound gorilla
How big is the chainsaw?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:59 pm to chilge1
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How big is the chainsaw?
I guess I got the number wrong. The saying was "800 pound gorilla." I guess a 100 pound gorilla is pretty fricking small.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:01 pm to TxTiger82
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You can't judge whether a team is deserving or not by their performance in the game. You judge them based on their resume going into the game.
So the National Championship Game is irrelevant? You're stupid. The Best two resumes played each other and Bama won when it mattered most. Definitely deserving.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:04 pm to pivey14
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You're stupid.
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So the National Championship Game is irrelevant?
Irrelevant when judging whether the BCS "got it right," yes, because you are using a different set of criteria to make that judgment than the BCS actually used to make a decision. It isn't that complicated. In fact, it can be summed up with a common phrase:
Hindsight is 20/20.
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The Best two resumes played each other and Bama won when it mattered most. Definitely deserving.
Here you are simply reiterating my argument, which is very different from your argument. I guess you are too stupid to realize that, though, so I'll take it easy on you.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:10 pm to TxTiger82
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I guess you are too stupid to realize that, though, so I'll take it easy on you.
Hell yea man, you must be such badass IRL. And no, I'm not reiterating your argument. Their resumes were comparable and both were top 2. You then have a game to decide who is the national champion. It's fairly simple. Bama was the better team that year.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:18 pm to pivey14
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I'm not reiterating your argument.
You did, though. You said exactly what I said and framed it as if it was your idea, which it wasn't. I am the one who said that Bama had the second best resume, which is true.
That is very different from the following: "Well they won, so that means they deserved it." How do you know Oklahoma State wouldn't have also beat LSU?
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Bama was the better team that year.
They played better in the NCG, that's definitely true. Better team? I'm not sure there is enough evidence to make that claim.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:41 am to TxTiger82
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The accepted wisdom on this board that 2007 LSU is the "weakest" BCS champ. The strange thing is that team would smash several of the other BCS champs, in my opinion.
the list of national champions that 07 LSU would beat is very short.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:03 am to GumpDyke
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The Auburn team who were allowed to field a player who should clearly have been ruled inelligible according to NCAA rules at the time?
mega lol
on an unrelated note, i totally burned my tongue eating pizza tonight. it was pretty good.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 1:05 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:41 am to chilge1
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By letter, it wasnt. By spirit, it was. Citing previously mentioned examples of 2006 UF/Mich, 2007 LSU/UGA.
In both examples, one team won an extra game. That was the ultimate difference. Big 12 screwed Okie State over by removing their chance at an extra win in the Big 12 title game. That alone would have pushed them ahead of Bama.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:27 am to Tiger3048
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I was so salty during that season, but now I realize that someone would've been left out anyway. Would've been the perfect year for the playoff. USC vs Utah, Oklahoma vs Auburn. Although they may have taken Texas instead of Utah for that 4th spot.
I still thought OU deserved in, but AU/USC would've been fun that year.
Agree 100%, that would've been good for a playoff. That Utah team was really good. Texas and Cal (with the GOAT QB, Aaron Rodgers) had great teams as well.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:08 am to Korin
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Btw, did y'all make "we beat the national champ" shirts like Ole Miss did?
Nope. We beat UF's arse on a regular basis (when we actually get to play each other), so it's nothing special.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:27 am to Korin
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Who should've played though?
11-1 Alabama: lost to #1 by 3
11-1 Oklahoma State: lost to a 6-6 team
11-2 Oregon: 2 losses
11-1 Stanford: raped at home by Oregon
13-1 LSU: beats Bama in regular season in Tuscaloosa, wins SEC championship, beats pac 12 champ and ACC champ, should have been allowed the opportunity to beat the big10 champ.
13-1 Bama: beats LSU in mulligan game
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 10:30 am
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