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re: Lets Compare B. Harris and J. Jefferson Year 1 to Year 2

Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:24 am to
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13985 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:24 am to
You try to keep up. As starters they both average about 300 yards a season.

His argument is still invalid.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 10:24 am
Posted by vincejr
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Oct 2006
953 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:28 am to
Has ole miss been to Atlanta with those passing numbers. How many 1000 yard rushers has Ole Miss had this decade?LSU played for a title and won the SEC with those numbers.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:29 am to
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TLDR: Harris sucks. LSU will be above average and be in the same boat at Halloween as last year. 9-3 and can't fire Les.

ole miss will be in the same boat that they have for the entirety of their program's history: not winning 10 regular season games. therefore, not winning the west.

have fun with that. YAOM.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:40 am to
You are correct that they had similar stats. Neither was a great runner.

I'd give the edge to Bo in the rushing department--he could leave the field of play faster than anyone



Jefferson was never back in the locker rooms that quickly.


Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13985 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:41 am to
So if Jefferson is a runner that wasn't as good as Bo Wallace but he is a better thrower than Harris; But Harris can't run very much at all, how is LSU going to be any better than last year?
Posted by Oil Field Trashy
Member since Jul 2016
82 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:43 am to
I read exactly none of that but ole miss sucks.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24382 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:44 am to
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So if Jefferson is a runner that wasn't as good as Bo Wallace but he is a better thrower than Harris; But Harris can't run very much at all, how is LSU going to be any better than last year?


Christ almighty. Ole Miss is going to be Ole Miss this year and you're breaking down QB data of Jordan Jefferson. Let that sink in.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:45 am to
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So if Jefferson is a runner that wasn't as good as Bo Wallace but he is a better thrower than Harris; But Harris can't run very much at all, how is LSU going to be any better than last year?



No clue. Les will find a way. After all, he bested High Freeze and a senior Bo Wallace with Anthony Jennings at the helm.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Geauxin off
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:53 am to
Didn't mean to down vote. Was well worded imo
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260219 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:01 am to
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Hmmmmm. What conclusions could you draw from this?


None, unless you're a drama queen.
Posted by JTREBEL
Member since Dec 2015
43 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:18 am to
There is a 60% chance that Harris will improve his QBR in year 2. Out of every SEC 2 year starting QB since 2000 22 of the 35 have increased their QBR on average of 12 pts. Is that enough to win a title. Don't know, but he does have better than a 50/50 chance of improving..
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59608 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:38 am to
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There is a 100% chance ole miss will not win the west
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:51 am to
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What about Mettenberger's first year starting to his second year starting?



He only picks the 1 QB during Miles' tenure who didn't improve from first year starting to next year starting

Russell? Nope
Lee? Nope
Mettenberger? Nope
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:52 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64551 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:54 am to
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There is a 60% chance that Harris will improve his QBR in year 2. Out of every SEC 2 year starting QB since 2000 22 of the 35 have increased their QBR on average of 12 pts. Is that enough to win a title. Don't know, but he does have better than a 50/50 chance of improving..


there are more variables than just that. coaching staff changes, attrition, etc. Harris has benefited greatly by LSU hiring a better DC to supplement the team as well as benefiting by returning almost the entire team from last season, a team that would have won 10 games without having McNeese cancelled
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13985 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:54 am to
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Lee? Nope


If Lee improved so much why did he lose his job?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64551 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:55 am to
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If Lee improved so much why did he lose his job?

strawman. he also lost his starting job during year one, not after
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3204 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:55 am to
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Lee didn't.


Ok so J. Lee was (if I remember correctly) the most efficient QB in the SEC in 2011.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:57 am to
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If Lee improved so much why did he lose his job?



Because Miles had an unabashed love affair with Jefferson, why? We'll never know. But nudes had to be involved. Lee was very good in 2011. He basically only "co"-started in 2008 and 2011. To be fair to Jefferson in 2011, he was doing well too until he shat himself in the NCG
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64551 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:59 am to
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To be fair to Jefferson in 2011, he was doing well too until he shat himself in the NCG

Jefferson was awful in the SECCG as well
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