re: Lets Compare B. Harris and J. Jefferson Year 1 to Year 2

Okay well you're concluding that Jefferson is better than Harris because of first year stats in. WEAKER SEC. So can we conclude Harris is better than Dak because Harris had better numbers in a more difficult Sec., despite the fact Dak had an extra redshirt year to prepare?

I thought he was just trying to be funny at first, but this topic really hits home for him

Hmmm you compared a black QB to another black QB completely ignoring the successful white QB.

Do you not see how stupid you sound?

Jennings started 1 year. So that's stupid.

Lee didn't start full time again until 2011 and he was much better.

Jefferson is the only guy in Harris' situation of those 3, and he is in the minority as far as 2nd year performance goes for QBs under Les Miles.

Yours is extremely flawed too, and you're speaking in absolutes. if you can't just watch football and observe that Harris is better than Lee and Jefferson, then I don't know what to tell you. Also it's not like anyone is insinuating Harris will have some heisman campaign. We don't need all-world qb okay to win 10+ games like ole miss

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if you can't just watch football and observe that Harris is better than Lee and Jefferson, then I don't know what to tell you

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OHhhhh so the empirical eye test is where we are going now. Good logic.

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Also it's not like anyone is insinuating Harris will have some heisman campaign. We don't need all-world qb okay to win 10+ games like ole miss

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It would probably help...

Just ignore him so he can go back to the produce section and turn on the mini sprinklers

I appreciate your interest in the LSU QB's

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Let's compare the stats of Jordan Jefferson and Brandon Harris in their first full years as starters.

Brandon Harris 2015
2165 yards
53.8 Completion %
13 TD/ 6 Int
130.6 QB Rating

Jordan Jefferson 2009
2166 Yards
61.5 Completion %
17 TD/ 7 INT
137 QB Rating

So lets look at JJ "improvement" in year 2 since they have comparable year one stats.

Jordan Jefferson 2010
1411 Yards
56.5 % Completion
7 TD/ 10 Int
114 QB Rating

Hmmmmm. What conclusions could you draw from this?

Lets look at some other examples of recent QB's in the SEC and their stats from years 1 and 2 as the starter.

Bo Wallace 2012
2994 Yards
63.9 % Completion
22 TD/ 17 Int
142 QB Rating

Bo Wallace 2013
3346 Yards
64.8 Completion %
18 TDs/10 Int
138.1 QBR

Bo Wallace 2014
3194 Yards
60.1 Completion %
22 TDs /14 Int
142.2 QBR

Bo essential was the same QB all 3 years. When his Int went down so did his TDs. Then they both went back up.

Lets Look at Jeff Driskel. The #1 QB in his class.

2012
1646 Yards
63.7 Completion %
12 TDs/ 5 Int
132 QBR

He even had 2 years to get ready for his next full year with meaningful reps.

2014
1140 Yards
53.8 Completion %
12 TDs/ 5 Int
103 QBR

I draw 2 conclusions.

1) Jordan Jefferson was better than Brandon Harris his first year as a starter.

2) It is far from a sure thing that a 2nd year starting QB will show decent growth. There is a lot of evidence to the theory that you are what you are. And that seems to be the case in the Les Miles offensive scheme over the years.

TLDR: Harris sucks. LSU will be above average and be in the same boat at Halloween as last year. 9-3 and can't fire Les.

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Thats a lot of work just to say you are worried about LSU this year.