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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:23 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:First, you have moved the goal posts a time or two already in the thread. Second, ppp is a good measure of offensive efficiency, but it, like any other single stat, doesn't tell the whole story. Trying to win an argument about best offense and defaulting to a single metric is overly simplistic and a poor way of evaluating the topic.
Like I have pointed out PPP is the best statistic when comparing offenses across systems and tempos, but I dont expect you to admit that I am correct.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:24 pm to KiffinsVisor
The hate for Kiffin is getting a bit out of hand. Dude knows offense, and he knows how to help QB's and receivers.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:25 pm to KiffinsVisor
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I think cam has not lived up to the hype LSU fans gave him.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:25 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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PPG includes points not scored by the offense so....
yes if you include all points scored and not just offensive. crazy isnt it
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:25 pm to WDE24
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First, you have moved the goal posts a time or two already in the thread.
I have been amazingly consistent in this thread boss.
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but it, like any other single stat, doesn't tell the whole story.
Its the best stat we have when talking about different systems.
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Trying to win an argument about best offense and defaulting to a single metric is overly simplistic and a poor way of evaluating the topic.
We can throw in YPP too.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:25 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
Don't get them started again on how he was the reason USC was good, despite all the other coaches winning without him but him not being able to without them.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:26 pm to KiffinsVisor
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I think cam has not lived up to the hype LSU fans gave him.
say wut
In his first year just led LSU to being the first school in SEC history with a 3,000 yard passer, 2 1,000 yard receivers, and a 1,000 yard rusher.
A turn around from the prior year with the same personnel that is night and day.
But yeah, he totally sucks
We are scary young this year at all of our skill positions on offense. They will gel soon and you all know it.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:27 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They will gel soon and you all know it.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:27 pm to WDE24
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First, you have moved the goal posts a time or two already in the thread
Trey trollin
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Second, ppp is a good measure of offensive efficiency, but it, like any other single stat, doesn't tell the whole story. Trying to win an argument about best offense and defaulting to a single metric is overly simplistic and a poor way of evaluating the topic.
its funny that last year they claimed efficiency stats were flawed
At the end of the day, in a game, the offense's goal is to score as many points as possible, not to have a higher per play scoring average.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:28 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Its the best stat we have when talking about different systems.
when your troll is flawed it is
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:29 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:So your first post about highest rated offense was really about most ppp?
I have been amazingly consistent in this thread boss.
quote:Are we confined to reducing the conversation to a single stat?
Its the best stat we have when talking about different systems.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:30 pm to WDE24
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So your first part about highest rated offense was really about most ppp?
No, it was YPG. Rated was the wrong term.
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Are we confined to reducing the conversation to a single stat?
We can use any state you like as long as it pp not pg.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:31 pm to Kcoyote
I could have coached that 09 bama D to a natty. The talent was unreal. Smart is just a pawn.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:32 pm to NYCAuburn
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Trey trollin
Just because I make a point that you dont like, doesnt mean I am trolling. Grow up.
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its funny that last year they claimed efficiency stats were flawed
When did I do that?
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At the end of the day, in a game, the offense's goal is to score as many points as possible, not to have a higher per play scoring average.
Yes that is the point of the game of football. But when trying to figure out who is doing the best job as an OC, its a very ancillary stat.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:33 pm to TreyAnastasio
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We can use any state you like as long as it pp not pg.
Help me out here as an unbiased spectator, is PP per possession?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:33 pm to TreyAnastasio
BTW Trey what is bama's points per play in comparison to Auburns 
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:33 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:So the goal posts have moved?
No, it was YPG. Rated was the wrong term.
quote:The more we use the clearer the picture, but we also have to account for opponents, game situations and other variables especially so early in the season when the sample size is smaller.
We can use any state you like as long as it pp not pg.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:34 pm to NYCAuburn
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BTW Trey what is bama's points per play in comparison to Auburns
As I said before, I dont know. I cant find plays run anywhere.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:35 pm to KiffinsVisor
There's just something odd about the Gus/Rhett relationship.
Oh, Gus is the better OC, Rhett is just his girl Friday.
Cam and Lane... meh.
Oh, Gus is the better OC, Rhett is just his girl Friday.
Cam and Lane... meh.
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