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re: Lane Kiffin vs Cam Cameron vs Rhett Lashley

Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

you guys run bubble screens


Everybody runs bubble screens. Most teams don't use it as the "go to" in the passing game though. The ones who do are usually finesse spread teams. (for example: a Mike Leach style O)
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:54 pm to
When were we talking about efficiency? Even if we were, it still isn't a flawed statistic. An argument using it as a primary measure of efficiency would be flawed, but the statistic remains simple math.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

This is a pretty basic statistical concept. Not sure why you are struggling with it so much.


You are great a projection with that struggling comment. I realize this is just an idiotic troll coming from you yet again.

Id like to hear your argument as to why other stats matter in comparison to the end all of offensive production, points
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30197 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:55 pm to
Nothing wrong with running bubble screens if they gain yards. I got no problem with short passes, wrap around draws, triple reverse, end arounds, dive plays, draws jet sweeps, QB draws....... If it gains yards do it!
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:56 pm to
Sounds gimmicky to me.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:57 pm to
It's flawed because it includes non-offensive TDs for one thing. I don't know about Bama but AU has a punt return TD and a pick six.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Nothing wrong with running bubble screens


No there isn't. Do you think you can live off of them, against SEC D's, and be successful in the passing game? That is the question.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by tbonebrah
Member since Jul 2009
2290 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:59 pm to
Besides following gus around doing the YMCA dance on the sideline while he makes all the offensive decisions, what has Lashlee done to be considered better than anyone in the conference?

I think Gus should at least win a bowl game as a head coach before his unaccomplished lackeys are considered the best as well.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

When were we talking about efficiency?


In a conversation about offensive coordinators who run different systems at different tempos, its the only stat that matters.

And y'all may be more proficient, I dunno. I cant seem to find plays run anywhere.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:00 pm to
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I think Gus should at least win a bowl game as a head coach
An SEC Championship is better than any bowl game outside of the BCS...
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

It's flawed because it includes non-offensive TDs for one thing. I don't know about Bama but AU has a punt return TD and a pick six.


There is another reason. I dont think we have scored any non-offensive points this year.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I think Gus should at least win a bowl game as a head coach before his unaccomplished lackeys are considered the best as well.
Seems like a strange bar to set.
Posted by KiffinsVisor
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:02 pm to
Maybe we haven't opened the play book since we haven't began sec play... Or maybe we will bubble screen the shite out of everyone on our schedule. Watch the last game, we ran like 1 bubble screen, and still sims had over 73% completion percentage... We will find a lot more out this week!
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

its the only stat that matters.
What is the only stat that matters?

You do know there are various stats designed to measure efficiency, not just one, right?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

What is the only start that matters?


PPP
Posted by sorrycholly
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2014
350 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I think Gus should at least win a bowl game as a head coach before his unaccomplished lackeys are considered the best as well.


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:05 pm to
So ball control is inefficient and shouldn't be considered when comparing offenses?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

It's flawed because it includes non-offensive TDs for one thing. I don't know about Bama but AU has a punt return TD and a pick six.


Auburn offensive ppg 45
Alabama Offensive ppg 42

all other stats in the game have glaring flaws for comparison, points are what offenses strive for. It is the goal of the O, to score.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
14538 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I think Cam Cameron is the most proven... and Kiffin has alot to prove


quote:

I choose Lane Kiffin!


So, in your eyes Kiffin just needs the opportunity to prove himself?

Oakland?
Tennessee?
Southern California?

Maybe one day Kiffin will get the chance to prove himself.

If I had to pluck one of those three out and plug them in at a new university, I'd take Cameron.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

all other stats in the game have glaring flaws for comparison,


Like I have pointed out PPP is the best statistic when comparing offenses across systems and tempos, but I dont expect you to admit that I am correct.
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