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Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:26 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:26 pm to Lsupimp
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I understand. I'm not lecturing you. I really at this point just feel a need to be on the record before what I believe may very well happen -happens.
If it happened like that, fry him. In some ways, it would be worse than what Hernandez did.
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Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:27 pm to RebelBearShark
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So... before you chastise OM for the whole James Meredith ordeal, for whom we have a statue and memorial,
Actually, that's not what I'm referring to.
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Just making sure you know the most racially discriminate group in the history of the plant
The plant?
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you should look back at your own history and STFU.
I'm well aware of my own history, apparently you are in denial about yours.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:29 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Actually, that's not what I'm referring to.
Then what are you referring to?
BTW, sry for not pressing the "E" button..
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:35 pm to RebelBearShark
I assumed it was just a typo, but maybe there's a racist plant out there that's relevant to the conversation.
Does Mississippi Burning or Medgar Evers ring any bells?
Does Mississippi Burning or Medgar Evers ring any bells?
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:44 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I assumed it was just a typo, but maybe there's a racist plant out there that's relevant to the conversation.
Way to interject comedic relief into your argument..
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Does Mississippi Burning or Medgar Evers ring any bells?
Got anything from this half of the century? I feel if that is viable, then our National Championships should be just as relevant.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:53 pm to Lsupimp
Pimp, is it your hunch/opinion that there may be some connection to Collins in this murder? I really want to believe it's not true, but there is a very small and tiny part of me that feels someone tried to tie up some loose ends due to some major money coming down the pike.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 8:03 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Pimp, is it your hunch/opinion that there may be some connection to Collins in this murder?
I really hope that murder is beyond the scope of cover ups for NFL prospects. Otherwise, we have an entirely different problem. If he was a real suspect, I would hope we would know by now.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 8:26 pm to RebelBearShark
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If he was a real suspect, I would hope we would know by now.
He's a real suspect if for no other reason than the circumstances. Detectives know the stats and trends on homicides. An ex-lover and potential father of the child is going to be right at the top of that list. Now it might turn out to be some random serial killer, but they are going to sharpen their focus on the usual inner circle culprits at the outset then work their way outwards.
The police usually say someone isn't a suspect to disarm them since that term has no legal consequences, unlike a cutodial seizure or formal investigation. They gain nothing by announcing someone as a suspect so they usually cloak it with a "we just need to ask some questions" type of jargon.
An exception is obviously when somebody is MIA or on the run and they need help from the public or other law enforcement agencies in tracking him down.
Homicide detectives are well trained in this cat-and-mouse game and know what they are doing.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 8:32 pm to RebelBearShark
Agreed, which is why I made sure to emphasize small and tiny thought.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 9:01 pm to RebelBearShark
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I'd rather hear about actual accomplishments..
Exactly what hardware does Ole Miss have in any major sport over the last 40-50 years?
Posted on 5/2/15 at 9:25 pm to CrimsonChin
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He is a suspect in a murder investigation. He will not be drafted.
I see you are an Alabama fan, so I'll forgive the poor reading skills.
The BRPD issued a statement that he wasn't a suspect.
You are welcome.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 9:55 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I was a CU season ticket holder and Boulder resident in the 90's. I was "around the program". Rae Carruth was universally considered one of the "good guys" on the team. So I know it is possible.
When the crime occurred it was on the local news. I looked to Mrs. Pimp and said "looks like somebody didn't want to pay child support". Imagine my surprise a few days later. She's dead, shot in what a witness described THAT NIGHT as an "assassination". Also noting that some hood rat lacks motive, because some hood rat has no assets. Who might have motive because of their assets? What hood rat shoots their baby momma?
I also know a little about where Lael comes from. Some of the things that happen in that neighborhood every day.
I also know that the police always say "he's not a suspect" and being familiar with investigative technique I know what investigators do to put pressure on somebody.
I also know that Baton Rouge has uber-experienced homicide investigators with very high conviction rates.
I also know that every NFL franchise immediately shut him down. And that his "representation" is on the sketchy side. And that others around him have their own motivations to see his money stream be as large as possible.
Measured against everything I know about Lael Collins, which is that he is a four-year program guy who is enthusiastic with charity, keeps his nose clean, and has built a sterling reputation.
All I have is experience observing law enforcement, and understanding of the human heart and intuition. And I have an overwhelming feeling on this from observing the events of the last week. Which is obviously different that having provable facts. If he is absolved, nobody will be more relieved than me. But if he has ANY connection to this , I hope he burns. And I'm good placing the investigation of a double murder higher than a guy's professional career setback.
When the crime occurred it was on the local news. I looked to Mrs. Pimp and said "looks like somebody didn't want to pay child support". Imagine my surprise a few days later. She's dead, shot in what a witness described THAT NIGHT as an "assassination". Also noting that some hood rat lacks motive, because some hood rat has no assets. Who might have motive because of their assets? What hood rat shoots their baby momma?
I also know a little about where Lael comes from. Some of the things that happen in that neighborhood every day.
I also know that the police always say "he's not a suspect" and being familiar with investigative technique I know what investigators do to put pressure on somebody.
I also know that Baton Rouge has uber-experienced homicide investigators with very high conviction rates.
I also know that every NFL franchise immediately shut him down. And that his "representation" is on the sketchy side. And that others around him have their own motivations to see his money stream be as large as possible.
Measured against everything I know about Lael Collins, which is that he is a four-year program guy who is enthusiastic with charity, keeps his nose clean, and has built a sterling reputation.
All I have is experience observing law enforcement, and understanding of the human heart and intuition. And I have an overwhelming feeling on this from observing the events of the last week. Which is obviously different that having provable facts. If he is absolved, nobody will be more relieved than me. But if he has ANY connection to this , I hope he burns. And I'm good placing the investigation of a double murder higher than a guy's professional career setback.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:44 am to AU4real35
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There's a reason why he isn't drafted... The kid might be innocent, but I guarantee you the NFL has inside information on this case
No they don't
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:45 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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quote: If he doesn't sign, he can sign a 2 year free agent deal with any team at league minimum salary non-guaranteed. Beginning pay would suck, but he could sign a new contract after only 2 years. Is this accurate? The UFA contracts I've seen are for 3 years and if the 4th year is not picked up they become Restricted Free Agents. Minimum salary with very little guaranteed, and a signing bonus between 2-10k. If La'el can negotiate a 2 year contract then that would be ideal for him. He gets to pick his team and hopefully take the one that offers him the most guaranteed.
Your correct. There has been a few exceptions signing a new contract after 2 years (see Vontaze Burfict), but generally it's a 3 year deal.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 7:51 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:55 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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If he doesn't sign with anyone, he "may" be able to be drafted next year with hopes of maintaining first or second round status and getting a strong 4 year deal.
"This is not accurate. He must be drafted and not sign to be able to enter next years draft."
I've read the same thing, but there is no language in the current collective bargaining agreement that covers this situation. This is an unprecedented situation and clarification will need to be made by the NFLPA.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:45 pm to robbykidd
Has NFL Security struck again?? You know that cracker jack department that knows all about every football player, see Ray Rice. 32 teams did not call the POLICE to find out about Collins. They went to NFL Security. If they gave the teams incorrect information on Collins which made teams scratch him from their player board then that could be a lawsuit. And a way for Collins to get some of his 1st or 2nd round money back. Settle out of court and in the settlement have a clause that he can still play in the NFL.
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