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re: Kevin Steele - year two at Auburn - expectations?

Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by WarDamn101
Member since Sep 2012
465 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:22 pm to
Carlton Davis is going to play on Sunday's. I'm not really worried about the pass rush either. Jeff Holland was good last year..the only thing he needs to do is work on finishing the play. Paul James and Nick Coe will be good options as well.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:26 pm to
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It takes considerable might to fail that hard at LSU defensively with all the talent we have there too. Very hard to explain how Steele's D was bad at LSU in 2015. Aranda improved it a TON this past year, despite a total philosophy change to a 3-4.


You're not kidding:

LSU defense stats:

opponent ppg:

all

2014 - 17.5

2015 - 24.3

2016 - 15.8

vs power 5

2014 - 21.1

2015 - 24.9

2016 - 16.6

opponent passing yards per game:

2014 - 164.2

2015 - 224.3 (same DBs as 2014)

2016 - 197.2

opponent rushing yards per game vs power 5:

2014 - 164.89 (starting 3 new DL)

2015 - 127.80

2016 - 120.60
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68317 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:28 pm to
Biggest imprvement wasn't in yards allowed, it was i nthe redzone.

33 trips to our redzone in 2016, with 8 being converted into touchdowns

36 trips to our redzone in 2015, with 25 being converted into touchdowns

Steele's defense couldnt stop anyone once they got within striking distance, Aranda turned that completely around. By far the biggest impactful change.

We allowed 16 total touchdowns in 2016, we allowed 38 in 2015. Aranda's scoring defense would have even better if teams didn't hit a ridiculously high rate of FGs on us (25 of 26 last year)...they couldn't freaking miss.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:30 pm to
Good point. It was dreadful when opponents got into the redzone that year.

Aranda is a wizard in the red zone. Auburn fans should know that.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Auburn seems to be a good fit for him with him being in his home state


Auburn is in Alabama
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37523 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Aranda is a wizard in the red zone. Auburn fans should know that.




Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Auburn is in Alabama


Correct. He's lived in Alabama the past 5-10 years and he has no intentions to move.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:34 pm to
How many Freshman and Sophomores did he play at lsu? Anyway I'm glad he's at Auburn, and won't be gone in a year or two.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:37 pm to
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How many Freshman and Sophomores did he play at lsu?


DE Arden Key FR
DT Christian LaCouture JR
DT Davon Godchaux SO
DE Lewis Neal JR

OLB Deion Jones SR
MLB Kendell Beckwith JR
OLB Lamar Louis SR

CB Tre'Davious White JR
CB Kevin Toliver II FR
NB Jalen Mills SR
DB Dwayne Thomas JR

FS Rickey Jefferson JR
SS Jamal Adams SO

5/11 were FR or SO with 2 of the 5 being previous starters
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:37 pm to
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Truth is we are much more talented and deeper than we have been in years.


I believe we are as deep as we have been since Tub. Safety depth is the only thing that concerns me.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:37 pm to
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Carlton Davis is going to play on Sunday's. I'm not really worried about the pass rush either. Jeff Holland was good last year..the only thing he needs to do is work on finishing the play. Paul James and Nick Coe will be good options as well.


I am not certain why you are so certain about Holland. He had 13 tackles and 2 sacks last year. The sacks came against arkie and ole miss. Ole miss couldn't run and arkie's OL was trash. That being said I completely understand why anyone would think he has potential. The tools are all there, but he hasn't really shown anything to make me certain he's a lock to be a great SEC DE.

Davis has all the tools to play on Sunday, but he isn't an NFL lock. His play dropped off last year as compared to his freshman season under T-rob. He did have 10 pass deflections last year, but also gave up several first down routes. He has it, just needs to show it week after week. Perhaps the most obvious thing to me showing he isn't where he needs to be is no team we played last season avoided throwing in his direction. Of course, that is the mark of a NFL talent at corner.

Agree with you about Coe and James, but we have never seen either play against SEC competition.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Safety depth is the only thing that concerns me.


We'll trade you one for an offensive lineman
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68317 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:40 pm to
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How many Freshman and Sophomores did he play at lsu? Anyway I'm glad he's at Auburn, and won't be gone in a year or two.



Not a young defense if you think he just played a ton of young guys. We had 7 guys drafted that played on that 2015 defense (so far).

The starting defense that year consisted of guys including but not limited to Jamal Adams, Tre'Davious White, Jalen Mills, Kendell Beckwith, Davon Godchaux, Christian LaCouture, Lewis Neal and Debo Jones. All of those guys are in the NFL right now except LaCouture who is a 5th year senior starting this year.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15825 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Lack of consistent, exposed dove offense has been


I meant "explosive", but "exposed dove" fits as well
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:05 pm to
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exposed dove


Is that similar to the whirly bird?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Correct. He's lived in Alabama the past 5-10 years and he has no intentions to move.


Not only is that timeline not accurate, but that still doesn't make it his "home state".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95150 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:21 pm to
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There is zero reasons, baring major injuries, for the defense to fall off. We did not lose a lot of guys and we added some talent. They should know how to play defense by now

I was shocked Steele was so successful last year


He somehow managed to make LSU suck on defense
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:44 pm to
2015 was lackluster, but Muschamp started the improvements. The numbers didn't show the changes that were happening in terms of fundamentals and discipline to role. With that said, AU has actual developed talent and depth at LB now, a deep DL, and some talent in the secondary.

I expect AU to be top 30 in total D.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:48 pm to
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I think he's on the way to redeeming himself as a DC


he's a solid DC and as an added bonus to Kevin, if he can hang on at AU for 4 more seasons he'll be vested in the state retirement system, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:56 pm to
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Not only is that timeline not accurate, but that still doesn't make it his "home state".


Definition of hometown:

quote:

the town where one was born or grew up, or the town of one's present fixed residence.


quote:

or the town of one's present fixed residence.


He's been in Alabama since like 2013 and maybe even longer. That makes it his home state.
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