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Kentucky's NC in football came at the Sooner's expense
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:28 pm
Oklahoma was ranked #1 going into the Sugar Bowl and Kentucky shocked them for the win and the National Championship (ie a NC that many other SEC schools can't claim). For the Sooner fans on here, could this be a foretaste of what they would face if they joined the SEC??
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:31 pm to BigBlue8Titles
You would think Kentucky has enough accolades in hoops that they don't have to stoop to the level of claiming fake national championships.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:34 pm to ZOU
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You would think Kentucky has enough accolades in hoops that they don't have to stoop to the level of claiming fake national championships.
Fake, lol. This is a TENNESSEE TITANS site and many sports media figures credit UK for the 1950 NC. Until the playoff started a few years ago, most NCs were disputed by some. This one is pretty undisputed.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:36 pm to BigBlue8Titles
We'd try to help you out
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:48 pm to BigBlue8Titles
From the link:
Kentucky played FOUR non-1A teams in 1950. Lost to the only 1A team with a winning record they played in the regular season.
1950-Kentucky (SEC)
9/16 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 25 0
9/23 vs. *Louisiana State (4-5-2) W 14 0
9/30 vs. *Mississippi (5-5) W 27 0
10/7 vs. Dayton (non-IA) W 40 0
10/14 vs. Cincinnati (non-IA) W 41 7
10/21 vs. Villanova (4-5) W 34 7 @ Philadelphia, PA
10/28 @ *Georgia Tech (5-6) W 28 14
11/4 vs. *Florida (5-5) W 40 6
11/11 @ *Mississippi State (4-5) W 48 21
11/18 vs. North Dakota (non-IA) W 83 0
11/25 @ *Tennessee (11-1) L 0 7
1/1 vs. Oklahoma (10-1) W 13 7 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
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Win a national title and not take the easiest road available to get there. They stood up to any and all competition
Kentucky played FOUR non-1A teams in 1950. Lost to the only 1A team with a winning record they played in the regular season.
1950-Kentucky (SEC)
9/16 vs. North Texas (non-IA) W 25 0
9/23 vs. *Louisiana State (4-5-2) W 14 0
9/30 vs. *Mississippi (5-5) W 27 0
10/7 vs. Dayton (non-IA) W 40 0
10/14 vs. Cincinnati (non-IA) W 41 7
10/21 vs. Villanova (4-5) W 34 7 @ Philadelphia, PA
10/28 @ *Georgia Tech (5-6) W 28 14
11/4 vs. *Florida (5-5) W 40 6
11/11 @ *Mississippi State (4-5) W 48 21
11/18 vs. North Dakota (non-IA) W 83 0
11/25 @ *Tennessee (11-1) L 0 7
1/1 vs. Oklahoma (10-1) W 13 7 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:48 pm to BigBlue8Titles
Congrats on your title, but in this case Oklahoma is more relevant in football than Kentucky.
Not taking away the fact you guys are a basketball powerhouse.
Not taking away the fact you guys are a basketball powerhouse.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:52 pm to ALA2262
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Lost to the only 1A team with a winning record they played in the regular season.
Not their fault the SEC sucked dick that year.
Kind of like this year.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:52 pm to ALA2262
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Lost to the only 1A team with a winning record they played in the regular season.
Not their fault the SEC sucked dick that year.
Kind of like this year.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:00 pm to BigBlue8Titles
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Fake, lol. This is a TENNESSEE TITANS site and many sports media figures credit UK for the 1950 NC. Until the playoff started a few years ago, most NCs were disputed by some. This one is pretty undisputed.
The only selector that recognized Kentucky didn't exist for almost 40 years after the season.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 5:33 am to ohiovol
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The only selector that recognized Kentucky didn't exist for almost 40 years after the season.
Not quite.
1 Total Major College National Championship Year(s)
No
Year
Record
Selector
1
1950
11-1-0
Bill Libby
Loren Maxwell
Sagarin Ratings
Posted on 1/6/17 at 5:38 am to BigBlue8Titles
I am surprised bama doesnt claim it since bryant was the coach
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:14 am to Evolved Simian
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Not their fault the SEC sucked dick that year. Kind of like this year.
True. And all of them would have had a winning record had they beaten Kentucky.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:39 am to ALA2262
Tennessee has more of a claim than Kentucky, and has more selectors. Tennessee finished higher in the polls. Tennessee and UK finished with same record. Only reason UK won SEC is because they played more games.
Kentucky has nothing but a bowl trophy. OU has the real hardware.
Kentucky has nothing but a bowl trophy. OU has the real hardware.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:01 pm to ohiovol
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The only selector that recognized Kentucky didn't exist for almost 40 years after the season.
Speaking of,can anyone provide a link to Sagarin's retroactive national championships? In the recent past I looked and looked and was not able to find them. Only where individual schools claim them.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:56 pm to Oklahomey
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Kentucky has nothing but a bowl trophy.
1951 Sugar Bowl Program = .50 cents (70 bucks today on Ebay)
1951 Sugar Bowl Ticket = 4.50 cents (185 bucks today on Ebay)
1951 Sugar Bowl win by Kentucky = PRICELESS
Ending the 3 year undefeated reign of Oklahoma is worth much more than just an old trophy.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:59 pm to Cheese Grits
Wasn't OU named national champs before this game was ever played? I think so, that's how it was done back then. The bowl games then were simply a reward for the players.
I didn't know UK claimed this. Then again some SEC teams are pretty liberal with their application of championships.
I didn't know UK claimed this. Then again some SEC teams are pretty liberal with their application of championships.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:42 pm to sows
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I didn't know UK claimed this.
The answer was already in your response.
When you announce the MNC before the bowls, it is viewed as suspect based on how the game values the post season. Back when it was just 4 or 5 bowls, they were still big enough deals as to bragging rights. Why do you think the Rose Bowl stopped letting the SEC play after WW II?
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I think so, that's how it was done back then.
Which is why they changed the system.
Face it, OU has been arse chapped for year for letting a basketball school break their run in football so they have to diminish it to ease the pain.
FWIW, the Maryland post season and the Kentucky postseason were 2 watershed game to move the final polls till all the bowl games had been played. As this is how it is done currently, it seems a retroactive award based on the current system is not as flawed as you imply.
While the Bear may have been a new HC at UK, it is not like he did not rove himself later in life. Saban wan a Natty @ LSU before he one @ Bama. Are you suggesting the LSU MNC was diminished just because it came earlier?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:53 pm to BigBlue8Titles
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Kentucky's NC in football came at the Sooner's expense
with that weak arse schedule, GTFO.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:00 pm to ALA2262
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10/21 vs. Villanova (4-5) W 34 7 @ Philadelphia, PA
Home game for Villanova
Villanova went to bowls in the old days, just ask Auburn, Villanova played them to a tie in their bowl game.
Auburn University, had rolled up an impressive 7-2-2 record and had closed out the 1936 regular season with six shutout wins on their schedule. Villanova, under coaching great Maurice J. "Clipper" Smith, piled up a sterling 7-2 record, and had earned victories over the likes of Penn State, Boston University, Detroit and South Carolina. Like Auburn, Villanova boasted of an outstanding defense, one that recorded four shutouts and had not allowed any opponent more than seven points.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:34 pm to Cheese Grits
Keep grasping. Kentucky doesn't have any piece of the 1950 national title. Let's take a look at the final AP poll for that season:
1. Oklahoma
2. Army
3. Texas
4. Tennessee
5. California
6. Princeton
7. Kentucky
1. Oklahoma
2. Army
3. Texas
4. Tennessee
5. California
6. Princeton
7. Kentucky
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