re: Kentucky vs Mississippi State Roll Call!

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I'd rather see that money in Baseball where hosting is far more valuable and gives us far more exposure.

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I actually agree 100% with this, especially as Jim Host made a fortune off of UK and could easily write the lead donation check for the new stadium.

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I will be happy to stop if you can provide me with a list of coaches UK could hire to accomplish this goal that would come to Kentucky over a job elsewhere. You keep complaining but you are not offering realistic solutions

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It all depends on the direction you want to go and your definition of feasible. Would someone like Butch Jones be a feasible option to you? Would you scoff at the notion of picking up the phone and making some like Mike Leach tell you no? I have a feeling anything I suggest is going to get shot down so you can prove a point so I'd rather not go in circles with you when I have better things to do.

Petrino would harm the long-term health of the program.

And bowl eligibility isn't too much to ask with our OOC.

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Would someone like Butch Jones be a feasible option to you?

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Would I call Butch Jones, sure, but would he take the job? Like Strong at Louisville he can rack up wins and springboard to the next level the way Kelly did. Why would he risk that to come to UK? A guy in his mid 40's can still increase his position in life. A side issue is how much is him, and how much is he winning with Kelly's recruits? I am not shooting this down, I am just saying is it possible?

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Would you scoff at the notion of picking up the phone and making Mike Leach tell you no?

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On this one my answer is NO! I like Mike and loved him at UK but he needs a conference like the PAC or Big 12 to work in. He does not care for defense and will not be happy if the UK administration forced him to give that side of the ball it's due. Hal was all flash but the slow and steady of Brooks served the better long term interest of UK.


I said it before you are looking at a coach probably in his 50's that has already won and is looking for a place to rack up some cash before retirement. They probably also need a strong history of teams with solid defense to show he can survive in the SEC.

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And bowl eligibility isn't too much to ask with our OOC.

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See, there is the real issue! Folks are already trending to a 9 game conference schedule and playing fewer powder puff teams out of conference. Not to say it will happen tomorrow, but in 5 years the FBS vs FCS game may go the way of the Dodo bird. The media companies are paying too much to realize a solid rate of return for UK vs Samford.

The playoff model is coming sooner than later and this is going to affect who Kentucky plays in those non conference games. It is a major reason UK should drop UL for IU and pick up games that offer better recruiting exposure. If UK were really ahead of it they would go for games they have a solid shot of winning but can generate national media interest.

say a basketball / football cross or teams with national followings

Indiana - close, rival, and gets northern exposure
Duke - would easily sell out Commonwealth, and gets eastern exposure
Kansas - beatable, and gets western exposure
Maryland - Nike vs Under Armor
Army / Navy / Air Force - winnable, and gets armed forces network coverage

I shot down Leach not Butch

I just do not think Butch takes the job. Look at it from his view. He has a base of 1.4 million with a bonus package of 600K. That means he can make 2 million at UC with an easier path and east coast exposure for recruiting. Staying with the Bearcats means a better shot at a bigger job for way more money. Kelly already did the heavy lifting and a move to UK means building from scratch.



I am not saying UK would or would not beat those teams with Joker. I was illustrating that thinking UK will be able to schedule FCS schools or bottom schools not in the Big 6 (ACC / B1G / B 12 / BE / PAC / SEC) in the future may be wishful thinking. These are 2 separate issues that you are trying to make 1.

Belle,

Shooting down = saying a coach can not do the job

Being realistic = saying a coach will not take the job



You can see the difference right?

I could suggest Saban or Miles for UK but there is no way they would take it! Heck, there were people throwing out Spurrier to UK when he came back to college but nobody believed it.