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Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:13 pm to
I don't think people realize how close Auburn was in every loss they had. Auburn was a pick 6 away for playing for the West title. Sean White has been at auburn as a starter for 2 years and hasn't made it to an iron bowl yet. Play calling and personnel was a major issue too! it literally took 5 games to get KP some touches, imagine him playing vs Clemson where he got 0 snaps or TAMU where he got limited snaps as well.


JS doesn't have to do much, he has the entire backfield from the #6 rushing attack in the country and a Oline with the 2nd most starts in the nation. On paper this might be the best Auburn team ive seen and yet if Gus can get his shite together Auburn can run the table to the playoff.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64186 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:15 pm to
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I don't think people realize how close Auburn was in every loss they had. Auburn was a pick 6 away for playing for the West title. Sean White has been at auburn as a starter for 2 years and hasn't made it to an iron bowl yet. Play calling and personnel was a major issue too! it literally took 5 games to get KP some touches, imagine him playing vs Clemson where he got 0 snaps or TAMU where he got limited snaps as well.


JS doesn't have to do much, he has the entire backfield from the #6 rushing attack in the country and a Oline with the 2nd most starts in the nation. On paper this might be the best Auburn team ive seen and yet if Gus can get his shite together Auburn can run the table to the playoff.


That's all well and good but you've got to get past Alabama and Georgia, which are much better teams than Auburn, top to bottom.

You might could run the table in the ACC this year.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:21 pm to
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I don't think people realize how close Auburn was in every loss they had. Auburn was a pick 6 away for playing for the West title.


That's a dangerous slope though. They got some breaks too.

They were also Les Miles clock management away from 6 losses and needed a 4th quarter interception to avoid possible OT with Vanderbilt.

If they get good QB play and the defense stays reliable they could be really good this season but their 2016 record was a pretty reasonable representation of the team they had last season.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:23 pm to
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It's amazing that the Auburn fans can admit what we all see with our own eyes. And it's not just the QB play, it's the exit of Urban Meyer and Les miles (mostly Urban) leaving Saban to dominate the league.


QB has been the limiting factor in the SEC the last 10 years, had nothing to due with Meyer or Miles. The league out talents the rest of college football at every position, but the QB (lack of) has been the great equalizer.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17328 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:26 pm to
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That's all well and good but you've got to get past Alabama and Georgia, which are much better teams than Auburn, top to bottom.
You're half right.

Seriously, AU and UGa are pretty much on par with each other, just like they have been the past two seasons. UGa won both games because the only serviceable QB on our roster was too badly injured to be effective. Your 'much better' offense in those games averaged 293 yards and 9.5 points (only one offensive TD in the last 8 quarters vs AU).

If you've got some objective evidence to back up your 'much better, top to bottom' claim for this season I'd love to see it.

ETA: Just added it up - in the last 239 plays from scrimmage in the DSOR, the two offenses have managed exactly ONE TD combined.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
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The league out talents the rest of college football at every position, but




Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51840 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
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their 2016 record was a pretty reasonable representation of the team they had last season.


Yep.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:33 pm to
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The league out talents the rest of college football at every position, but







And your only counter arguement is...

About what i expect, but I though you would at least try to throw some counter stat to ague against that notion. I know it will not be the use of the NFL Draft.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17820 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:45 pm to
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I know it will not be the use of the NFL Draft.


NOBODY GRADUATED DUDE! C'MON!
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:46 pm to
Didn't we just play you in the Sugar Bowl? You clearly didn't have us "out-talented at every position" to the tune of 526 yards against your "SEC defense". You had that game lost before kickoff.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17820 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Nobody graduated anybody in the BIG XII except WVU and OU


Something just occurred to me.
How many Big12 teams brought in 2017 recruiting classes?
If no players left then there was no room for incoming players, right?

Or are you going to sell us on 100% redshirt rates in the Big12?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:49 pm to
Hey genius, every team has attrition every year and graduates Seniors that aren't starters, kids get kicked off the team, and players transfer out looking for playing time elsewhere.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17820 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:55 pm to
The point was made regarding the numbers of players who were drafted to the NFL.

Your argument is that a comparison is not adequate because the Big12 had more
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Seniors that aren't starters, and players transfer out looking for playing time elsewhere.

than the SEC? Is that the point that you want to make?

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:56 pm to
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You had that game lost before kickoff.


Did you watch the game? I'm guessing not because if you did you'd know that something kinda important happened at the end of the first series (an Auburn TD drive) that might have impacted the outcome a little bit.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:58 pm to
No. My point was that the BIG XII has mostly young teams, to which I supplied a link for you to read verifying this (which you didn't read), and that nobody really graduated any significant amount of [img]STARTERS[/img] from their teams last year. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:00 pm to
Yes I watched the game. White isn't a good QB (although I understand why you SECers might think he is) and he wasn't going to beat us no matter what with his twirlybird nonsense. He wasn't good enough.
Him getting knocked out of the game isn't what led to their defense getting chewed up and rag dolled all game long now is it? We had too many weapons for them to defend and their defensive gameplan was unrealistic, if not entirely arrogant. That's why they had the game lost before kickoff.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17820 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Why is that so difficult for you to understand?


I understand completely. I just like watching you spin, tiny dancer.

Thanks for the laughs.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Didn't we just play you in the Sugar Bowl? You clearly didn't have us "out-talented at every position" to the tune of 526 yards against your "SEC defense". You had that game lost before kickoff.



Did you see our QB Play ? Plus our best back was limited.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
11054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Did you see our QB Play ?


Of course. Didn't I just speak about that above? You had nowhere near the QB play, anywhere on your depth chart, including the White kid, to win that game. You didn't have the defensive gameplan to win it either.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61842 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Yes I watched the game. White isn't a good QB (although I understand why you SECers might think he is) and he wasn't going to beat us no matter what with his twirlybird nonsense. He wasn't good enough.
Him getting knocked out of the game isn't what led to their defense getting chewed up and rag dolled all game long now is it? We had too many weapons for them to defend and their defensive gameplan was unrealistic, if not entirely arrogant. That's why they had the game lost before kickoff.


Auburn got beat at every position in that game. And nobody should try and deny that.

It was a fricking mess


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