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Jalen Hurts passing game = Bama Achilles Heel

Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:35 am
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:35 am
Secondary was above average this year... not great. Took a team with a QB like Clemson to truly exploit it. Nothing new here... just a comment. Seems clear to me Hurts at QB isn't the future for Bama. No way he is a 3 or 4 year starter.

Best defense in all of college football. Still a great year.
Posted by Pride of Georgia
Wadley, GA
Member since Sep 2016
662 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:36 am to
Defense gave up 35
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:39 am to
That will happen when they are on the field most of the second half. Clemson is good, not saying they aren't.

If Hurts could accurately throw the ball down the field then the offense stays on the field a lot more and Bama wins by 14.

Was pulling for Bama but I have had the same opinion of Bama since October. Hurts was an overall liability and the secondary was susceptible to a good passing attack.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24861 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:40 am to
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Seems clear to me Hurts at QB isn't the future for Bama. No way he is a 3 or 4 year starter.


No chance an 18 year true freshman improves with age and experience? Damn, should probably just kick him off the team at this point and cut our losses - what's the point in hanging on to him?
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:40 am to
Like I've said: Don't worry, the lefty coming in will hit those passes next season. Oh, and apparently, he brought the Number 1 player in the country, a running back, with him. You'll learn their names pretty soon.
Posted by Pride of Georgia
Wadley, GA
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:41 am to
Bama should have let the starters stay in most of the games that were blowouts because they were too tired at the end of the game since they were not used to playing so much. Nick Saban learned a valuable lesson on Monday
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:41 am to
If anyone told me Bama would score 31 points against Clemson and still lose, I would have laughed at them.

The vaunted Bama defense, specifically the secondary, couldn't get the job done when they needed to.
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:42 am to
The passing game is probably the most underdeveloped trait for any True Freshman DT QB. Throw in playing championship defense for the last 3 games of the season, not even counting LSU and Auburn near the tail end, and it's going to magnify that. He's young and has time.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:43 am to
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Bama should have let the starters stay in most of the games that were blowouts because they were too tired at the end of the game since they were not used to playing so


Clemson ran the most offensive plays that Alabama has ever played against (99).
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Seems clear to me Hurts at QB isn't the future for Bama. No way he is a 3 or 4 year starter.


PSA: I would never take football advice from an aggie. Their standards are incredibly low.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24474 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:44 am to
Defense didn't have the depth to go 99 plays without giving up points. Clemson had 7 midway through the third. Not an excuse. We couldn't sustain drives and they took advantage.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:54 am to
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No chance an 18 year true freshman improves with age and experience? Damn, should probably just kick him off the team at this point and cut our losses - what's the point in hanging on to him?



Isn't the new trend for your QBs to leave after 1 or 2 years?
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:55 am to
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Isn't the new trend for your QBs to leave after 1 or 2 years?


When they are juniors or seniors? Yes.

When they are true freshman starters? Generally not.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:59 am to
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The vaunted Bama defense, specifically the secondary, couldn't get the job done when they needed to.



I've seen this view expressed a lot, and to me it completely disregards how talented and great Clemson and Deshaun Watson's offense was. There are great teams outside the SEC and even Washington caused Bama problems - that game was closer than the score.

Bama's D held that offense in check most of the game in impressive fashion, yet the Bama offense was not able to eat game clock, thus giving the best player in the game 99 snaps. You can't coddle a 10 point lead in that scenario, whether it's 10-0 or 50-40. You better keep him off the field because he will eventually get his.

The weak link for Bama all year, a one-dimensional offense with a true-frosh QB, is the reason they lost. Not their defense. And I don't think Hurts deserves all the blame. There were several huge drops that would have kept drives going by Bama receivers.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I've seen this view expressed a lot, and to me it completely disregards how talented and great Clemson and Deshaun Watson's offense was.


Agree, but praising a team isn't a fun troll topic.

Agree with the entire post, good stuff.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

The vaunted Bama defense, specifically the secondary, couldn't get the job done when they needed to.


You are an idiot. You can't expect that when the offense is going 3 and out every series. Our late touchdown was lucky as frick. This loss is 100% on the QB, offensive line and the wide receivers.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20340 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:02 am to
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PSA: I would never take football advice from an aggie.


Not offering advice... just an observation an opinion... Kind of like this one before Bama played LSU.

quote:

re: Do you like the new Bama offense?Posted on 10/25/16 at 4:40 pm to sunseeker

You guys don't really have a down field passing game. The way to play Bama is to load up on the run and force the pass. We didn't have the depth on the line or the linebackers to do this. LSU does. If LSU had a legitimate passing attack, Bama would be in trouble. Etling hasn't shown me he is the type of QB that can beat Bama secondary. Therefore I see you guys being able to stop LSU enough to keep your offense on the field and wear the LSU defense down. If time of possession stays around 50/50 then the game is a tossup.

Don't think Bama can win having to rely on passing game. Hurts just not accurate enough.


Like I said in my OP... had the same opinion of Bama since October.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:05 am to
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Defense gave up 35


But the failure of the offense to sustain drives left the defense on the field way too long, which obviously results in a worn and weary defense, and also gave the CLemson offense way too many opportunities.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:06 am to
This as the first game since losing Jackson that really worried me in terms of a passing attack, somewhat last week. But Washington didn't have the athleticism to hang with Alabama for four quarters. Losing Bo Hurt there as well, i think we were up 10 at that point in time and could maybe have rode it out in the 4th quarter a bit better in terms of TOP and keeping Watson and the D off the field. It looked like our longest drive of the second half was six plays and the d was gassed (and Clemson WR were making some great catches as well leading up to that TD)

Hurts may have gotten a little wide eyed and relied on his legs too much. It seems like there were some chances for him to fire a decent ball on those roll outs instead of throwing it away. His legs are an X factor obviously, so hopefully with some work he can develop into an accurate and confident passer to complement that. He just has a certain way he carries himself on the field that I really like, especially for a true Freshman on that stage - in the end he got the lead with two minutes left against a great team.

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Seems clear to me Hurts at QB isn't the future for Bama.


Yep he really sucked it up this year, only went 14-1 as a true freshman.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:08 am to
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Jalen Hurts passing game = Bama Achilles Heel
Bama should have let the starters stay in most of the games that were blowouts because they were too tired at the end of the game since they were not used to playing so much. Nick Saban learned a valuable lesson on Monday


Are you for real? That is just crazy. #1-That's more opportunity for season ending injuries and #2- The players are well conditioned, but nothing will prepare you for being on the field that long.

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